Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ann Olivarius


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The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 16:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Ann Olivarius

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Contested PROD, Promotional resume on person of little or no notability. Fails WP:GNG and/or WP:BIO. Mt king  (edits)  02:12, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is some news coverage about her . Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 02:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Create article on her law partner Jeff Anderson, who has better coverage, and redirect there. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is one @ Jef McAllister Mt  king  (edits)  05:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that would be a very good target as McAllister's notability seems to come from being a journalist/author. McAllister Olivarius could also be a title of the new article. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 06:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Has just been deleted at Articles for deletion/McAllister Olivarius. Mt  king  (edits)  20:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Mhm. Guess it would have to be at Anderson then. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 05:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Whilst she is clearly a very accomplished lady, I don't see any of the things on her CV (with the possible exception of being "one of the first female Rhodes scholars" (although a quick scan of List of Rhodes Scholars makes that claim sounds exaggerated)) that make her encyclopedic in her own right.  She is a well rounded and very accomplished individual, but the world has plenty of those. --Legis (talk - contribs) 03:42, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. As a relatively new editor, I may not be fully-versed on notability but have to disagree with you on the exaggeration of the claim to be one of the first female Rhodes. A quick scan of the web (e.g.,http://www.rhodes-caribbean.com/) will tell you that until 1977 no women were admitted as Rhodes scholars, and that was the year she graduated from Yale and got the Rhodes. --Pukkativa 04:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The article seems to give very strong evidence that she is (or was) notable but, because the events took place several decades ago, it is not so easy to find lots of independent sources by a quick google search. The article cited from the Yale Herald seems to confirm that Olivarius was quite dogged and courageous in progressing the rights of 1970's female college students. The fact it is still discussed 23 years later must tell us something! Someone with access to off-line law journals etc. needs to be asked to find references. Deletion isn't the way forward. Sionk (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep It needs an overhaul - notable feminist and victim's rights advocate with several reliable sources. I'll start working on it. - ManicSpider (talk) 13:35, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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