Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Barsukova


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Michig (talk) 09:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Anna Barsukova

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Model may meet NModel but there is no GNG at all. The closest thing to a source I could find was from Teen Vogue in 2007. Trillfendi (talk) 15:58, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment This article stops in 2008, as did her modeling career, but she gets coverage more recently for the health food/beverage business she founded after retiring from modeling and getting a business degree, and for her personal life. See this 2015 profile in the Russian edition of Tatler or this "success story" profile from her school  for more current information and leads on an improved WP:BEFORE. Also please remember that sources in Russian (or any other language) are explicitly allowed on enwiki, as WP:N makes clear. Bakazaka (talk) 17:15, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I tried to find Russian sources but couldn’t so I assumed one of you could do it better than me.Trillfendi (talk) 17:19, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I encourage you to ask for help at a relevant WikiProject talk page, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia, while doing your WP:BEFORE for a deletion nomination. Many WikiProjects are quite helpful, and you might find that an article is a candidate for improvement rather than deletion. Bakazaka (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I nominated on the basis of verifiability for her modeling career. For that, I saw no means of improvement. If she meets notability for business then I guess the article could be rescued, but I don’t think that’s possible at this time.Trillfendi (talk) 18:16, 29 December 2018 (UTC)


 * KEEP - The article in Vogue, plus the coverage as a model, rises to the level of WP:SIGCOV. FOARP (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * [You mean this Teen Vogue article (if one could even call it that) where they ask her random questions like her favorite cds? No that does not substantiate significant coverage or notability. No sources given and none found do, that’s the problem here. Supermodels.nl is a blog, FMD and defunct NYMag profiles are databases, they don’t give notability. Please show me other sources you’re talking about. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] (talk) 18:48, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * To be clear, are you saying that the Tatler article linked above does not count toward notability, in your opinion? Bakazaka (talk) 18:56, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * (I forgot to take a look at that one.) It appears to give a hint of notability to her business endeavors, unfortunately they don’t go in depth, but at the same time it seems to stand on her brief modeling career. The title itself is “Anna Barsukova: the new girlfriend of the oligarch Dmitry Rybolovlev” which really makes no sense IMO because the article only mentions him twice and he isn’t an investor in her business. In my eyes it’s their attempt to expand on gossip, because I don’t see much else about their relationship if it’s still going on. So I think that one is a toss-up.Trillfendi (talk) 19:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Just so other editors driving by know what we're talking about here, the Tatler article is a 1000+ word magazine profile directly on the subject, covering her modeling history, her educational trajectory, her multiple business startups, her personal life, etc. By itself it is not enough to establish notability under WP:BASIC, given the need for multiple sources. But it is significant coverage, and if there are editors who actually want to improve the article, it's a good pointer to things she did after her modeling career ended, which the nomination did not take into account. Bakazaka (talk) 20:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete a non-notable model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:52, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


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