Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Carter Florence


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Anna Carter Florence

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Not notable under WP:PROF or GNG. Named associate professorships do not mee tthe PROF requirements by themselves. The works are devotional,not academic. The thought section is promotional, but it could be removed if there were actual   notability , This is part of a promotional campaign for faculty at this school.  DGG ( talk ) 17:44, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  19:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete for now at least until a better article is available later, not much here to convince keeping yet. SwisterTwister   talk  19:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. This one seems to be a mistake to delete. "The works are devotional,not academic." is not entirely true.  Preaching as Testimony (Westminster John Knox Press, 2007) is clearly academic (as are a number of the book chapters) and is reviewed  in both the popular and academic press (e.g.):
 * The Christian Century
 * Expository Times
 * Intepretation: A Journal of Bible and Theology
 * And the book seems to be widely discussed and cited ,,,.
 * She seems to meet WP:Prof #1 as a fairly important current professor of homiletics. This is further evidenced by her having given the 2012 Lyman Beecher Lectures on preaching at Yale Divinity School, the 2015 William Self Preaching Lectures at Mercer University --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 15:24, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


 *  Neutral Keep -- the title of Associate Professor generally requires stronger evidence than a full professor (or full + named chair) to keep. Her book has three reviews in popular and academic press as Samuel Howard notes, but only one JSTOR citation (however, it is extremely positive: ). Library holding of 118 for the book is on the low side for keeping on that basis. However, the Beecher lectures (a series dating back to 1870s and encompassing many of the most notable preachers in America) is a strong indication of notability. The Mercer series is not as long-established, but note that lecture series are generally a higher significance of notability than a single lecture, and there are two here. In any case, the releases for both of them would provide independent sources for the claims in the article. It's not a slam dunk by any means, but I think it leans toward keep. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 19:11, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * As noted in another AfD, I think to call this a promotional campaign is incorrect (AGF). The author of the article created 28 articles of which at least 9 (nominator) or at least 14 (my count) are notable enough to keep without AfD -- see User:Jcstanley/my articles for more discussion. I also don't see a sharp distinction between devotional and academic for a figure employed at universities attracting large interest from faculty and authors at other universities. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 19:14, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep -- That is an impressive list of publications. Preaching (or homiletics) is a significant subject in ministerial training, so that it should not be dismissed as non-academic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13(talk) 05:33, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:AUTHOR evidenced by all the reviews/discussions of her books listed by User:Samuel J. Howard above. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:01, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


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