Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Katrulina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Anna Katrulina


The article has already been deleted in the de-wiki and ru-wiki, there is a discussion in the uk-wiki. The person has no encyclopedic significance as a scientist, artist or public figure. I have indefinitely blocked the author of the article in the ru-wiki for aggressive pushing. Khinkali (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Khinkali (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Ukraine. Shellwood (talk) 20:24, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Zero hits in Gscholar, one hit on a book from 1997 (which doesn't seem to be her), zero in Gsearch, seems to indicate lack of any notability. Having an ORCID means nothing more than registering (I have one, as a wikipedia editor and for a few other projects I collaborate on), doesn't imply notability. This appears to be PROMO vanispamcruft. Oaktree b (talk) 20:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * How did this get out of AfC only on November 9th? Oaktree b (talk) 20:43, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Credibility and Significance: The article provides information about Anna Katrulina's activities, including her education, works, publications, and participation in civic and media projects. The sources cited, such as the national university, the national library, scientific publications, and media projects, attest to the credibility of the information.
 * Adherence to Neutrality and Impartiality: The text appears neutral and impartial, relying on the presented data.
 * Adherence to Formatting Standards: The structure of the article appears standard: introduction, biography, theory, media art, civic activities, bibliography.
 * Use of Reliable Sources: Various sources are cited, such as scientific journals and media publications, enhancing the reliability of the article.
 * Absence of Direct Advertising: There is no overt advertising in the article; it focuses on providing information about Anna Katrulina's activities.
 * Adherence to Copyright: The text acknowledges Anna Katrulina's authorship, in line with copyright principles.
 * Completeness and Informativeness: The article provides sufficient information about various aspects of Anna Katrulina's activities and achievements.
 * Absence of Conflict of Interest: At first glance, there doesn't appear to be a conflict of interest.
 * Conclusion: Based on the presented text, the article about Anna Katrulina adheres to Wikipedia's rules. Darya2023 (talk) 22:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Quotes from the discussion on the Ukrainian Wikipedia: "There are many publications, a lot of information, the person is active and well-known, and the books have sold in large print runs. In the article, there is a section 'Bibliography,' where three books authored by Katrulina are listed, all three were quite popular and important. The author herself wrote books, and in collaboration, she wrote scientific papers. Therefore, she is a significant individual." Darya2023 (talk) 22:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The neutrality rules are being violated by administrators on the Russian Wikipedia Darya2023 (talk) 23:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

In the article, the bibliography indicates the years of publication of scientific papers and books, starting from 2022. Darya2023 (talk) 21:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


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The discussion on the Russian and German Wikipedia, as well as the subsequent persecution on this platform, takes the form of harassment and discrimination, where the focus shifts from constructive discussion to aggressive actions. Please note that both harassment and persecution are carried out specifically by individuals from Russia. It is possible that the reason for this is that Katrulina is Ukrainian. Please pay attention to this fact before expressing your arguments for or against. It is necessary to acknowledge that Anna Aleksandrovna Katrulina is the subject of unjustified attacks, and this fact should be taken into account when considering the removal of her article. It's time to stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darya2023 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Theory of Information Dissemination: The theory developed by Anna Katrulina constitutes a significant contribution to understanding the impact of information on society. This theory can capture the attention of readers interested in communications and the influence of information in the modern world.
 * Media Arts and Artistic Projects: Participation in exhibitions and projects, such as Saatchi Gallery and Inside Out, underscores Anna Katrulina's creative and innovative contributions to the fields of art and culture.
 * Public Engagement: Free workshops and films for socially marginalized groups highlight Anna Katrulina's social responsibility and her commitment to creating a more tolerant society.
 * Publications and Bibliography: The presence of scientific publications and books, such as "Harmonious Life," supports her contributions to the fields of marketing, public relations, and communications.
 * Collaboration with Various Organizations: Involvement in projects and advisory initiatives with international, governmental, and civil organizations emphasizes her professional reputation and significance in relevant areas.
 * Support from the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and her work for the Information Research Center of the Ukrainian Parliament: Participation in USAID-supported projects confirms her contributions to public research, gaining recognition from influential international organizations.
 * ORCID Identification: Anna Katrulina's ORCID identification serves as additional confirmation of her scholar status and academic contributions. Additionally, the information about new scientific discoveries can be made public and used while respecting her copyright as the originator of the theory.
 * The university that publishes scientific monographs with her works ranks first among Ukrainian universities in international university rankings, evaluating academic reputation, the quality of education, and research activities. The monographs listed in her bibliography are international in scope, involving leading scholars from Ukraine, the United States, and Poland.
 * In summary, the article about Anna Aleksandrovna Katrulina contains information about her significance in various fields, and the above arguments emphasize why the article should be preserved on Wikipedia. The raised issue of harassment underscores the importance of fair and objective discussion. Darya2023 (talk) 01:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Please read Notability (people) and Reliable sources. To meet English-language notability guidelines, we need direct evidence of significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. Your best hope of convincing people that Katrulina meets the notability criteria is to provide here citations to the best few sources: articles in publications meeting our reliability criteria which are independent of the subject, and discuss her in depth. Pick the best three, cite them, and let others comment - repeating the same arguments again and again achieves nothing, and can be seen as bludgeoning. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Scientific Work
 * ORCID - https://orcid.org/0009-0002-4277-1850
 * Placement of a scientific work on the website of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) for the Information and Research Center of the Parliament of Ukraine:
 * https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00XCJM.pdf
 * https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00XCD1.pdf
 * https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00XCG7.pdf
 * https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00XCJ7.pdf
 * https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00XCG8.pdf
 * Placement and publication of a scientific work in the library and on the website of the National Library of Ukraine named after V. I. Vernadsky (NBUV) — a nationwide comprehensive library-information, scientific-research, scientific-methodical, and cultural-educational center of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/cgi-bin/irbis_nbuv/cgiirbis_64.exe
 * The Academic and Scientific Institute of Journalism at Taras Shevchenko National University https://knu.ua/pdfs/official/accreditation/061/2022-2023/54807-brand-communications.pdf of Kyiv, whose academic council has approved the publication of the international scientific  monographs listed in the bibliography, holds top positions in international rankings among Ukrainian universities.
 * Library of Borys Grinchenko Kyiv University - http://ek.kubg.edu.ua/cgi-bin/irbis64r_17/cgiirbis_64.exe?LNG=&P21DBN=KUBG&I21DBN=KUBG_PRINT&S21FMT=fullw_print&C21COM=F&Z21MFN=87312
 * Coverage of public activities in the fight against discrimination
 * https://ukurier.gov.ua/uk/news/kudi-vtekti-vid-tirana/
 * https://www.volynnews.com/news/all/340-hryven-shtrafu-chy-efektyvno-v-ukrayini-dolaiut-domashnye-nasylstvo/
 * https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-society/3325358-reklamna-revolucia-teper-seksizmu-ne-misce-na-bordah-i-v-rolikah.html
 * https://provce.ck.ua/aktsiyu-16-dniv-proty-nasylstva-cherkasy-zavershyly-uchastyu-u-mizhnarodnomu-fotoproekti/
 * https://suspilne.media/62924-ditacij-kinofest-u-cerkasah-prezentuvali-pat-korotkometrazok-vidznatih-ditmi/
 * The provided sources indicate that the individual's work enjoys broad public recognition. Her influence spans various aspects of life, including active participation in research, publications in reputable libraries and research centers, as well as involvement in public projects addressing discrimination and shaping public opinion. These factors underscore the significance of her work and its impact on diverse aspects of societal life. All the referenced sources in the article's Anna Katrulina links multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. Darya2023 (talk) 09:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You appear still not to have read Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Reliable sources. We aren't the slightest bit interested in your personal assessment regarding 'broad public recognition', 'influence', or anything else.  Notability is demonstrated only by what independent reliable sources have directly to say about a subject. Citations to Katrulina's own publications are completely irrelevant. Links to libraries that hold her publications are irrelevant. Passing mentions and quotations from the biography subject in articles on another subjects are insufficient. Nothing you have provided so far constitutes evidence of the necessary in-depth coverage in independent sources required to meet our notability criteria. I suggest you stop spamming this page with irrelevant links, and if you cannot provide the necessary valid citations to the type of coverage we require, leave this discussion to take its course. We only have limited patience with contributors who attempt to bludgeon discussion while refusing to take note of relevant Wikipedia policies. AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems that you constantly make assumptions unconfirmed by facts. You might not have realized that I have limited patience for those who have already been identified as conflict of interest violators. I am even less interested in your subjective assessment of government and national organizations as sources. They validate authenticity and reliability as sources. Your explanation, on the other hand, only reflects your subjective point of view on the text I wrote. Nothing written by YOU here so far serves as evidence of the necessary deep coverage in independent secondary sources required to meet commonly accepted criteria of notability. Whether you like it or not, this is a fact. Darya2023 (talk) 10:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that over time, the cognitive ability to understand texts has decreased for an editor with almost twenty years of experience. But that's your problem. Darya2023 (talk) 11:08, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete No evidence of significance has been presented, like book reviews that would suggest a WP:NAUTHOR pass. Hemiauchenia (talk) 02:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As always when an article has been REFBOMBed like this could someone please identify the three best sources? I have rather rusty Russian (it is nearly half a century since I passed my A level) and even worse Ukrainian, so I can't go through all the sources in a reasonable time. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep the article: The Wikipedia policy was developed by someone earlier and has been accepted as a commonly understood practice. This article aligns with Wikipedia's principles as an open database. All the necessary evidence for this has been provided above. Additionally, it is important to note that the article is appropriate in this context, considering its relevance and alignment with the topic. Darya 2023 (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darya2023 (talk • contribs)
 * Wikipedia is not an 'open database'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC).
 * The term "open database" is applicable to Wikipedia, emphasizing its openness to changes and access to information. Wikipedia fits this definition in the sense that it provides open access to information, and its content is created and maintained by an open community of contributors. Wikipedia indeed operates on open principles, allowing users to freely make changes to the content and share knowledge. I would be interested to hear your arguments Darya2023 (talk) 13:23, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * REad What Wikipedia is not. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You refer to an article with references without evidence of significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. The only external source in the article you provided is a press release, and the book mentioned is not available anywhere. However, you consider it appropriate. At the same time, an article with a vast number of secondary sources is deemed inappropriate by you. This is a double standard. Also, the article does not state that Wikipedia is not an open database. Darya2023 (talk) 13:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOTDATABASE JM (talk) 16:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. By this point it has become self-evident that the sources required to demonstrate that the subject of this biography meets Wikipedia notability criteria cannot be found. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * By this point, it has become self-evident that you don't have access to the sources necessary to demonstrate that the subject of this biography meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Darya2023 (talk) 13:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, links to Google Scholar have been added to the article, where secondary sources cite scientific publications authored by Katrulina Darya2023 (talk) 14:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Google News: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B0&sca_esv=582640987&tbs=ar%3A1&tbm=nws&sxsrf=AM9HkKnfbGR6QeFkLCmQcjIGNwyGSZvbqw%3A1700059658187&ei=CtpUZY2FC92wwPAPyby6sAE&ved=0ahUKEwiNspfgn8aCAxVdGBAIHUmeDhYQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B0&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LW5ld3MiEtCa0LDRgtGA0YPQu9GW0L3QsDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIHEAAYDRiABDIGEAAYHhgNSNsiUABYvyFwBXgAkAECmAGTA6ABohGqAQkzLjQuMS4yLjG4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCxAAGIoFGLEDGIMBwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg0QABiABBixAxiDARgKwgIKEAAYgAQYsQMYCsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICDRAAGA0YgAQYsQMYgwGIBgE&sclient=gws-wiz-news Darya2023 (talk) 14:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable and this is a puff marketing piece. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a COI as well going on. The books and theories they've "written" aren't in their name and the name is just tagged against it. Pulling doubt on any contribution to them. Self published book, claiming it's published by Amazon Publishing with zero evidence of this. It's a puff piece that even the sources in the article don't support the claims of. Canterbury Tail talk 14:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As far as I can make out from the creator's engagement in this discussion, they have not made any effort to suggest which sources demonstrate notability, and nobody else appears to have been able to find any evidence of notability. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 15:37, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above and snowclose because everyone here has !voted for deletion except the main writer of the article who is posting ridiculous walls of text to bludgeon people who !vote to delete. JM (talk) 16:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Snow delete. The author of this page, who is not fluent in English, was recently blocked after people at ANI found out that they were using AI to write in the English Wikipedia. That's most likely why this article seems to have some factual inaccuracies, there is no way this can be kept. SparklyNights (t) 18:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


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