Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anne Logston (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, noting that later !votes may be given more weight in a discussion where the article is further developed over the course of the discussion. BD2412 T 03:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Anne Logston
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The subject fails the WP:GNG as well as WP:AUTHOR. They do have published works, but none including the author were mentioned in independent reliable sources. Less Unless (talk) 20:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions.  J  947 &thinsp;(c) , at  00:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Soft Delete - The existence of book reviews does not automatically confer notability on the author. Waiting to see some SIGCOV.  Rogermx (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete we do not have significant coverage of Logston.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NAUTHOR. No independent coverage, just book sales and niche sites. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Possible sources demonstrating significant coverage include:
 * Kliatt, January, 1992, p. 18; September, 1993, p. 18; July, 1994, p. 16; May, 1995, p. 16; November, 1995, p. 17.
 * Locus, August, 1991, pp. 27, 55; January, 1993, pp. 31; July, 1993, p. 50; April, 1994, p. 29; December, 1994, p. 29.
 * Science Fiction Chronicle, June, 1992, p. 33.
 * Voice of Youth Advocates, June, 1992, p. 111; August, 1994, p. 158. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Contemporary Authors and references suggest significant coverage of her career and works. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep – She's in the The Encyclopedia of Fantasy and here are some other sources:
 * "Book creates wonderful journey" from Daily Journal
 * Entry in The A to Z of Fantasy Literature
 * Missvain (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, i am swaying here, one point of WP:NAUTHOR requires reviews of their works and for them to be "significant or well-known", although there are plenty of reviews available from "good" sources (see ISFDB listing here) - click on individual titles and reviews are listed (there are reviews in addition to those mentioned by above) - i note that 5 of the titles have 2 reviews listed that technically meet WP:NBOOK ie. multiple reviews, and depending on which books are reviewed in Kliatt, and VOYA mentioned above may mean that more of her books are wikinotable/articleworthy, a concern is that they may be deemed not well known ie. library holdings (acknowledging that the figures may not be uptodate) are in the low double figures (highest found: Dagger's  Edge 34 libraries, Waterdance 27 libraries, Shadow 24 libraries), but with Logston being covered by Encyc Fantasy and A to Z Fant Lit i am feeling "keepish". Coolabahapple (talk) 06:37, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Good points, . Have you considered the relatively short life shelf life of physical copies of books in libraries? Libraries weed for damage and age; OCLC holdings are updated when books are withdrawn from catalogs; older titles may only be reordered if requested by patrons and if still in print. Her library holdings numbers were most certainly quite a bit higher closer to the publication dates. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 10:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. ISFDB shows two published reviews for Guardian's Key, one for Exile, two for Dagger's Edge, two for Dagger's Point, two for Shadow, one for Shadow Dance, two for Greendaughter, one for Wild Blood, one for Firewalk, and one for Waterdance, for a total of 15 reviews of 10 of her books. That's plenty for WP:AUTHOR. They would have all been in print magazines in the 1990s, so not likely available online, but sources don't need to be online for them to demonstrate notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


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