Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annette Kirwan


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The result was redirect to Edward Carson, Baron Carson. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Annette Kirwan

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Non-notable person with no significant coverage. Sonofstar (talk) 18:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to the article on her husband. I can find sourcing on her and her future husband meeting in printed works, but this is because her husband, after her death, became the leading political force in the decisions about the status of Ireland and the creation of Northern Ireland. Any full length biography is going to give some coverage to the subject's spouse. I am actually surprised I did not find more coverage of her, but google books may not be analyzing the who text, or we may have an issues where some other references are just to Annette or even Annette Carson. I tried to see if that search would bring up more, but instead it brings up other Annette Carsons. I am thinking if we did keep this article it should be under Annette Carson, since Wikipedia uses the name people were known by during their life, and most of her life that is the name she was known by. Thus we have the article at Hillary Clinton or Margaret Thatcher not Hillary Rodham or Margaret Roberts. Just to name two examples that come to mind very quick. The third that comes to mind is Emma Smith, but she is not quite as well known. However we have nothing substantive to say on Mrs. Carson, other than the names of her children. Even if we could find a little more substantive things to say of Mrs. Carson, I think we would need to find sourcing beyond a biography of her husband to justify having an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Redirect per the excellent rationale of JPL above. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED and there's little justification for a separate article. Her name is a plausible search term, however, and redirects are helpful and cheap. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Edward Carson, Baron Carson: per JPL CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and/or redirect. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, which means she isn't automatically entitled to have an article just because she was married to somebody who has one, but this makes no credible claim that she has any standalone notability of her own and its only source is a genealogy rather than notability-supporting media coverage about her doing anything noteworthy. Bearcat (talk) 04:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


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