Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Aristar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Linguist List. A redirect seems an acceptable ATD. Any content worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 13:52, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Anthony Aristar

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Fails WP:NPROF. References are of the most tenuous. Potentially notable.  scope_creep Talk  19:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Language.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete It would seem that this fellow would squeak by in terms of NACADEMIC but I'm not finding it. He and his wife did get the Victoria A. Fromkin Distinguished Service Prize from the Linguistic Society in 2003 for founding Linguist list. There's just a couple of sentences, however. I don't think that's enough and his publications are not heavily cited. Finding some independent write-ups about the list and with information about him could provide GNG. Lamona (talk) 03:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I did notice that as a lifetime achievement award, fundamentally for turning up every and working.   scope_creep Talk  09:42, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio giuliano 19:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I just added half a dozen references, some from newspapers and some from scholarly journals, to text already there. The article certainly needs work, but I think there is plenty of room to expand on Professor Aristar's career. LINGUIST List, E-MELD, and Multitree (projects that he co-founded) are all pretty influential within his field. Cnilep (talk) 05:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think what you are aiming for is #4 of WP:NACADEMIC: "The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions." If so, it doesn't come through in the sources. The quotes you added don't put this over the top to notability, IMO. Managing a list is not the same as making a significant discovery in ones' field. It isn't "academic work" per se. I looked up E-MELD in G-Scholar and it's mostly meeting reports with few published papers and very low citations. It does surprise me that there isn't more recognition of this person's work, but unless we find it there's not enough to support an article. Lamona (talk) 15:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I was questioning this, over the weekend. I went over the sources, that ones that I could access and it was definitely a mixed bag of what I would consider at the lower end of quality. I couldn'tt see anything that I could attach to as viable secondary source. It rotated around the question of "Is he notable for creating a bibliographic database". I don't see it, to be honest. Many of these types of database are created all the time. I don't it is possible to clarify it as something that is standalone notable and it all stems from that.    scope_creep Talk  15:18, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge to The LINGUIST LIST seems the best option, I can't find much for this person though. He could earn a brief mention there, the list seems rather popular based on hits in Gscholar. Oaktree b (talk) 19:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I !voted to keep the article, above, but as LINGUIST List is one of Aristar's major contributions a merge would also make sense. See also the objections under my argument above. (I still think he is notable, but the contrary arguments of Lamona and scope_creep are also valid.) Cnilep (talk) 23:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment Does anybody else have anything to say about this? The question rotates around "is he notable for creating a biblio database" which is too low a bar.   scope_creep Talk  15:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to the Linguist List with a Redirect. The list is evidently notable; its creator is not, i.e. neither independently nor adequately. -The Gnome (talk) 08:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.