Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Church (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. No refutation to the nomination statement was shown; the only Keep !vote was WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS Black Kite (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Anthony Church
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Speedy deletion was decline. Mr. Church still has not played in a fully professional league, he is not a full international, and he has not received significant coverage, meaning this article still fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:23, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


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 * KEEP: I don't see a reason to delete this article when other article's for example Richard Brodie are allowed to remain. Brodie although contracted to a Football League team hasn't played in a professional league and like Church has only played in the Conference National at the highest level. Both are professional footballers, and both have England C team caps, same rule should apply. In my opinion they are both notable Footballgy (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:WAX, WP:OTHERSTUFF. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:41, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Sir Sputnik tagged this for speedy as a repost, and I declined it because it's completely different from what was deleted before. Nyttend (talk) 16:34, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, for now per WP:NFOOTY, hasn't played professionally as of yet. (2) --Chip123456 (talk) 16:48, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment He was on a professional contract at a professional club with Grimsby.Footballgy (talk) 16:50, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The inclusion criteria is playing in a fully professional league. For England that means, any of the top four divisions. Mr. Church has not played above the fifth. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * KEEP Give the article time to grow and pass WP:GNG, I know for a fact it is capable of passing if you give it time to expand. FishyPhotos (talk) 08:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What may happen is speculation, which is never grounds for notability per WP:CRYSTAL. Sir Sputnik (talk) 09:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It may or may not, I know for a fact there are enough credible sources available to compile a decent enough article. FishyPhotos (talk) 10:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Then present them. Notability requires verifiable evidence. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As stated above, the article is not going to be kept solely on an unsupported claim that there are theoretical sources out there. If they exist, include them in the article and make a note here so that editors can re-assess.  Simply repeatedly stating "there are sources out there" isn't going to cut it, I'm afraid.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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