Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Entwistle


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Anthony Entwistle

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Does not seem to be very notable. We should not have an article about every criminal. One short mention in a list of criminals is not enough. I could not find more good sources about him. Prod was endorsed by User:B.Wind "WP:BLP1E - nothing to separate him from any other convicted murderer." but then removed by User:Oo7565. Apoc2400 (talk) 20:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Whole_life_tariff, as all the info in the article seems to be here, too. Belasted (talk) 21:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

What I've proposed is obviously the best choice. Can anybody directly disagree with me? Belasted (talk) 05:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Very strong delete. BLP of the worst kind, quite aside from a blatant BLP1E. Wikipedia is not a database of criminal convictions. Incidentally, while I doubt it will make the slightest difference to the scheme of things I've pre-emptively NOINDEXed this discussion. –  iride scent  21:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note – I have removed all unsourced material that construes as BLP violations as shown here. MuZemike 22:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * did you try to source it? it is exactly that material which might possibly make him notable. It would seem that sources would be available.DGG (talk) 02:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * A UK Google search on '"Anthony Entwhistle" + rape' only brings up a single mention other than Wikipedia mirrors, and that's just a two-sentence mention in a list of prisoners serving whole-life sentences. I don't doubt the accuracy (by definition, he's done nothing notable since long before the start of the internet, so online sourcing is going to be a problem), but I don't see anything remarkable enough about him to separate him from any other murderer – he has neither the "popular culture" notoriety of Ian Brady or Jeffrey Dahmer, nor was his case particularly unusual as with our most clumsily-named article Robert Chambers (killer), for example. Unfortunately, in a population of 7 billion there are a lot of murderers and sex offenders, and I really don't think Wikipedia is the best place to serve as a directory of them. WP:Notability (criminal acts) is an unaccepted policy, but I do agree with its primary thrust; "Perpetrators of high-profile crimes do not automatically qualify as notable enough to have a stand-alone article. Perpetrator notability is defined as satisfying some other aspect of the notability of persons guideline that does not relate to the crime in question". –  iride scent  02:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I added back in that he is a rapist (backed with a verifiable source that I found, of course), but I cannot find anything that backs up the other phrase that I removed: within weeks of his release from a seven-year prison sentence imposed for sexually assaulting two women. Otherwise, I stand by my removal of that phrase as it can be potentially harmful information about a living person. If someone can find a source to back that above phrase, and add it back in and include the source. However, I could not find it amongst the sea of Wikipedia mirrors that Iridescent noted above when I did the same Google search. MuZemike 04:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as the article is concerned in general, I'm learning towards a weak delete as I couldn't find any sources that provide significant coverage of this rapist/murderer/rapist (I said rape twice because I like rape). Now, this all happened back in the 1980s, so there might not be much online to find; print sources may fulfill the notability factor. MuZemike 04:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note by nom: His "claim to fame" would be that he is on the list of 50 or so British criminals given a whole life tariff. Now we have at least two reliable sources supporting that. Stubbing this down to what the sources say would be acceptable for me. --Apoc2400 (talk) 09:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  05:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - does not indicate more about this person, not notable enough. Versus22 talk 06:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - aside from total lack of real notability, this is an incredibly uninteresting person, it seems!! ╟─ Treasury Tag ► contribs ─╢ 08:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. And where were all of these Delete !votes when I nominated the far less notable Patrick Syring? THF (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  —THF (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


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