Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Pateras


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. The subject is a performing artist and as such a public figure; consequently, WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE does not apply. , please keep WP:COI in mind with respect to any edits regarding this article.  Sandstein  08:15, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Anthony Pateras
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I am the article's subject. I regard myself as a private, non-notable person and would like the article to be deleted from Wikipedia please. It is incomplete, poorly cited with insufficient information and I never wanted it online in the first place. I don't know who authored it. My work is very personal and I'd like to represent it properly and completely, i.e. on my own website, with context and examples. Thank you for considering. Sharing the world (talk) 07:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete clearly not notable enough to justify an article over the subject's objections.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Has it been confirmed that the nominator is the article's subject? This article has been on EN:WP since May 2006. Note another user, edited it from August 2012 and was blocked in February 2020. In any case, the subject is notable per WP:MUSICBIO. Consider three nominations at the APRA Music Awards: 2011, 2012, and 2015. As a composer/musical director he has a listing at AusStage: here, and at Australian Music Centre here. Further information may be available at other WP projects: here. The article needs a lot of work, with the Career section requiring further information with reliable sources. However, such improvement is possible and not sufficient reason for deletion.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)06:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)07:22, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Hello again, I am the article's subject, who requested this deletion. You can contact administration and verify who I am with them. I have requested a deletion because in agreeing with John Pack Lambert, I am not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. The latest edits and additions are irrelevant to my current practise, and provide a skewed and unhelpful view of what I actually do, which I'd like to keep off Wikipedia. Additionally, the outdated quotes from music and theatre journalism from publications which have been added show no useful insights into the work. Please delete the article, thank you.Sharing the world (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:57, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment When you nominated the article for deletion you already voted for it to be deleted: don't vote twice. I disagree with the contention that the subject is not notable, see WP:MUSICBIO. Specifically consider criteria #1, #4, #5, and #8. Note: demonstrating any one of these is sufficient to qualify as notable enough. I have provided reliable sources, which describe their career. I tend to work chronologically and hence latter day achievements or style changes may not have been addressed. This means the article should be updated but this is not a reason to delete it.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:15, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Ok sorry, I'm unfamiliar the protocol here. If the article stays, anyone interested in editing or improving it should address the last 4 years of what I've been doing (2016-). I have a website with discography, catalogue, interviews etc. that can help with this. Obviously I can't edit my own page for COI. I don't see reviews as useful descriptors as they are often factually incorrect but if you must include them, fine. Thank you for your time. Sharing the world (talk) 11:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It sounds like you are willing to accept the article to remain on WP. Improvement of the article can be addressed on its talkpage: Talk:Anthony_Pateras. The subject of an article can make suggestions for such improvement and provided those changes are supported by independent reliable sources then they could be adopted into the article.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I am willing to accept the article to remain on WP if it is properly resourced. For example, this discography which has been added only goes until 2009, and is already missing a lot of albums. There's a lot of resources and articles online that include more up to date information, my offical website being the best resource. In any case, I would be happy for this article to be deleted, unless anyone objects. My work is very niche and has a very small audience, which is why I suggested deletion on non-notable grounds in the first place. It is however, wide-ranging, so it's going to take a lot of work to do an accurate article if anyone actually wants to. I'd prefer to be deleted, please.Sharing the world (talk) 04:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ifnord (talk) 15:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.