Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antoinette Nora Claypoole


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Antoinette Nora Claypoole
Not Notable, also WP:AUTO. A freelance journalist with a fairly obscure book, a completely obscure novel, and poetry and prose appearing in various odd places. She wrote the article herself. --Brianyoumans 08:34, 6 August 2006 (UTC) ==***Here is an alt.native post from Claypoole herself acknowledging that her book was published by Jordan Dill, a website operator: "From antoinette - Date: Sat, Dec 16 2000 5:14 am ....  as some of you know, the work i wrote which was published by jordan s. dill,  WHO WOULD UNBRAID HER HAIR, the legend of annie mae, ... " Other than her backer Jordan Dill's website, all of Claypoole's promotions appear on her own blogs and websites. Wikipedia doesn't need to be one of them.--Ardith010 09:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)Ardith010
 * Delete. Only one of her books (Who Would Unbraid Her Hair) shows up on amazon.com; it has a sales rank of 1,705,242 and is published by a quite obscure publisher (not found on Google). It appears to fail WP:BOOK (which I don't entirely agree with, but... there you go). The book is, however, on a subject currently considered notable (Anna Mae Aquash). On the other hand, the article is an autobiography, and she herself appears to fail WP:BIO. She's an interesting subject, but sadly, unencyclopedic. --FreelanceWizard 08:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral. I suppose blogspot.com links aren't very notable or suitable for a Wikipedia article, and a jounralist/author would generally have a little more definite content to it but the article seems genuine enough. I would err toward neutral as I don't quite like the general feel of the article but aren't in favour of keeping it either. --Draicone (talk) 09:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * "DELETE"Absolutely a "must" for deletion, under the this policy: "Articles whose deletion should be uncontroversial but which don't meet the "utter rubbish" criteria for speedy deletion. This is often used for articles which appear to have genuine content but which the deleter feels are not suitable content for Wikipedia, such as advertising, vanity articles, and the like." Claypoole, across the web, has amply demonstrated that this entry falls into the "advertising" and "vanity" category. She is an entirely self-promoted "writer" of dubious talent and integrity. Long a thorn in the side of Indian Country, she persists in presenting herself as an expert on complex Native American issues and then waxing mystical about life and death issues. She has savaged the tragedy of the death of Anna Mae Aquash, even in the title of her self-financed (other than that paid for by Jordan Dill, another self-promoter) book _Who Would Unbraid Her Hair_. Claypoole, who is not Indian, apparently channels the occult notion that Aquash's hands were cut off so that her spirit could not have rest, as then her warrior braid couldn't be properly dealt with. In reality, the hands were cut off for another reason--not that you'll find facts in her writings. She is simply another Indian hanger-on with dubious credentials, mostly drummed up by her own self-promotion. Now she's into using her publicity to create customers for writers' retreats. **If you'd like to learn about her, visit the Google Groups alt.native  Just a quick Google search turned up enough Claypoole blogs and various websites to support the contention of this article being "advertising" and "vanity."
 * Delete Who Would Unbraid Her Hair was originally published by Anam Cara Press/Jordan S. Dill. Dill seems to be primarily s self-publisher.  Other book is fromWild Embers which seems to be Claypoole  herself .  Very few Ghits, and those primarily to blogs.   Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  11:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:VAIN --Mitaphane talk 00:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.