Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anton Medan


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The result was  k eep. - Mailer Diablo 15:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Anton Medan

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Fails WP:BIO after two years. there are no reliable sources and the article has been tagged with unreferenced since November. Sefringle 03:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think he fails WP:BIO (though he doesn't pass with flying colors either). I see 2,000 Google hits, some in the Bahasa Indonesia language.  The problem is that Indonesia has almost as many people as the United States, but the language, social and distance barriers are such that it's hard for us to judge notability over there.  The fact that he has an article on the Indonesian Wikipedia makes me want to leave well enough alone. YechielMan 04:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails attribution and verifiability policies and after that long I'm not seeing that change. NeoFreak 06:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per YechielMan. Indeed a Factiva search gets 37 hits in reliable press sources, mostly the Jakarta Post and The Straits Times. Articles which mention him include:
 * "Ex-convict denies instigating riots., Jakarta Post, 22 June 1998, 372 words, (English)"
 * "Preacher named suspect in bloody mid-May riots., Jakarta Post, 11 July 1998, 277 words, (English)"
 * "INDONESIA IN TRANSITION - Preacher questioned over May riots., Straits Times, 17 July 1998, 240 words, (English)"
 * "Unorthodox Cleric: Riot Suspect in Jakarta is a Man of Many Convictions, The Asian Wall Street Journal, 28 July 1998, 945 words, By Jay Solomon, (English)"
 * "SOCIETY-INDONESIA: EX-CONVICT LEADS OTHERS TO LIFE AFTER PRISON, Inter Press Service, 17 September 2003, 1016 words, By Kafil Yamin, (English)"
 * I will see what I can do given the articles in the next few days. Resurgent insurgent 06:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article is still a stub, so it needs an expansion for sure. About the nobility, the person is notable enough in Indonesia. A criminal turned out to be a politician and a religious figure. I will put some references about him then if the problem is only about referencing. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 07:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Update: I have edited the article, it has now reliable sources. If you read there, then you'll see that he is notable enough to have an article. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 11:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletions.   Resurgent insurgent 07:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. After Indon's edits, it seems clear enough to me that he passes both notability and verifiability requirements. Rigadoun (talk) 15:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as per YechielMan, sbandrews (t) 20:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


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