Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antonina Lebedeva


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Ya  sh  !   00:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Antonina Lebedeva

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Minor medal. No major accomplishments. The same routine coverage as all Soviet era female pilots.  DGG ( talk ) 19:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as per obvious Wikipedia bias against women. 24.114.78.27 (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - seriously? female fighter pilots in WWII were rare. The reason for the "same routine coverage as all Soviet era female pilots" is because they are all celebrated as heroes. She shot down three planes and fought during the Battle of Stalingrad. Nom apparently ignorant of the huge gigantic significance of the Battle of Stalingrad that still exists today. She had additional focus as her remains and wreckage were not discovered until 1982. She was given a burial with an obelisk. She has a street named after her in the city near where she was found. There was a book published about her in 1985 and she's featured in a book about female fighter pilots. Shameful nomination.  —Мандичка YO 😜 21:59, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep article about her in Russian is solidly referenced, so what is good for them is good for others, even americans, I should say. And my opinion has some weight, as personally I should regard those fighters pilots, female or other, as enemies who tried to kill my grandparents, well, not her personally, but colleagues. (Bombing of Tallinn 9 March 1944; there was rumor that to celebrate Women's Day this bombing was done by female pilots; nice thought but historically untrue.) But as good historian I respect my enemies and give them all credit of being war heroes/heroines. - Same goes about another deleted article about Claudia smth... Claudia Nechayeva. Клавдия Андреевна Нечаева, russian article about her is in good order, or looks like, and their colleagues. I'd rather prefer them to have separate articles, even short ones, not to merge into one  like 'female soviet pilots' or even their Regiment 586 (полк № 586) - what, actually, might have separate article. Russian wikipedia does not, unfortunately, maybe because they all have separate articles. BirgittaMTh (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep interesting article. Sufficient coverage.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 04:11, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 14:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - As noted, the Russian article makes it pretty clear she's notable (as do sources when searching for her name in English/Russian). &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:48, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Subject passes #5 of WP:MILPEOPLE. According to this, Order of the Patriotic War award is only given to those who have done some important heroic deeds during the German-Soviet War. Since she had received that award, it's clear that the subject played an important role in a significant military event. Now, a full article in Russian language, another full article, significantly about the subject, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and many more, will certainly make the subject pass WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO with ease. Ping to reconsider.  Jim  Car  ter  13:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep this appears to be a major gaff or oops moment on AfD because it clearly doesn't belong here. Sometimes I believe editors nominate stubs because it's easier then writing. --MurderByDeadcopy"bang!" 20:18, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The article could certainly be improved with the addition of material from its Russian language counterpart, but per WP:SURMOUNTABLE, that is not a reason to delete. Passes WP:GNG. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - pretty obviously meets WP:GNG, and per Hawkeye7, the Russian Wiki article can be used to improve it. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 23:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


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