Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anubhav Srivastava


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete as G7. Pastor Theo (talk) 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Anubhav Srivastava

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Delete per WP:SOAP, along with the article on Carve Your Destiny, which appear to be using Wikipedia as a promo tool for the filmmaker and his project. I can find no reliable third-party sources establishing notability. (It is possible there has been sock-puppetry among three accounts in creating these articles.) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  -- - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 01:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete The first ref is user submitted, the second one - don't know what to make of it, third one is user submitted, the rest aren't even refs for the subject, they are refs to say that the people he has photographs with in ref 3 are notable! - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 01:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable person masquerading as a notable person with the help of cooked up sources. Salih  ( talk ) 04:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Hello guys, I am the creator of the parent article "Carve Your Destiny" and I respect your opinion about the subject. I would like to add the following reasons why this page deserves to stay on Wikipedia. A couple of points mentioned in the discussion page for the parent article will be repeated here because they apply to this subject as well.

1) The person in question has independently created this project only adds value to Wikipedia as this project involves several respected personalities from India, many of them having belonging to reputed organizations or having notable international achievements.

2) The article has been written from a neutral point of view. Only the facts have been stated. The bio is not biased towards the subject.

3) According to Wikipedia, notability is an inclusion criterion based on the encyclopedic suitability of an article topic. The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded."[1] Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular"—although not irrelevant—is secondary. The subject of this article HAS received attention in a third party publication. Kindly see the point below.

4)The first reference from Yourstory.in is a reliable third party source started by a journalist involved with a mainstream Indian channel "CNBC Awaaz." Kindly check this link to verify her affliation with CNBC (http://www.coolavenues.com/bschools/090401/siom-e-cell-1.php) While, the article was written in first person, it was only at the request of the Website itself. This does not mean the coverage was not "third party" as the publication itself has absolutely no affiliation to the subject. The article was scrutinized and edited by editors on the website before it was put on the main page. The fact the article was covered on the page of of a third party publication for several days does establish notability for the resource. Kindly visit http://yourstory.in if you have any doubts regarding it being a third party source. The article was written by the person but it WAS NOT SELF PUBLISHED and was independently verified by the publication before being put up.

5) The second reference I am aware that "The interview with Katerina Brodska" cannot be treated as a "reliable" third party source. Although it is not self published, still according to wikipedia "Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information ABOUT THEMSELVES, especially in articles ABOUT THEMSELVES, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as: the material is not unduly self-serving; it does not involve claims about third parties; it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources."

6) The third reference has been used for verification of the appearances of the interviewees. It is indirectly used a reference for the work the subject of this article has done. What other form of reference can be used for VERIFICATION of appearances of interviewees apart from stills from all the interviews conducted?

7) The rest of the references were never intended to be references for the subject itself but references for the statement "with achievements in diverse fields." They were indirect references for the notability of the individuals involved in the work he has done.

Finally, I would like to state that this article should stay based on the following.

- The work done by the subject and the subject itself has been covered in AT LEAST one reliable independent third party publication. The authenticity of the work is evident through the third reference in the article.

Destinedfortop (talk) 06:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Subject not notable (WP:Notability) according to neutral third-party reliable sources (WP:RS). But good luck with the project! Priyanath talk 15:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Remrie (talk) 20:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC) — Remrie (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep but Merge In accordance with what I said on the Carve Your Destiny I think the Anubhav Srivastava article, instead of being deleted, should be merged with the Carve Your Destiny article for now until the person becomes more notable. Should the article on Carve Your Destiny be deleted, the information on this page would go anyway. If the Carve Your Destiny page stays and the person becomes more well known in the media, he could have a separate page again.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 21:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Admins, I am requesting you to kindly delete this page and the one on Carve Your Destiny as it does not seem to be suited to Wikipedia for now. Kindly ignore my earlier arguments. Destinedfortop (talk) 13:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have placed a speedy deletion tag on Carve Your Destiny. As the article creator, you have the right to request deletion. However, this article was created by User:Bandit323: is this also your account? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

No it is not, although it is a person known to me personally. If you need him to make a request through that account, I will ask him to do so Destinedfortop (talk) 14:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do. I should also caution you that enlisting friends to create articles about you, or to vote favourably for your articles in deletion discussions, is a violation of our guidelines against "meat puppets" and could result in your and your friends being blocked. Even if you believe that you or your creations are so notable as to deserve a Wikipedia article, my advice is to leave that to objective third parties to decide, not you or your pals. As you have no doubt discovered, this community does not take kindly to being exploited as a promotional tool. If you're really destined for the top, prove it in the real world first. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, on second thought, I've removed the speedy delete tag from the article about you (though someone else may replace it). I'd like this Afd to go through to completion, as it decreases the likelihood that you or your pals will be able to recreate the articles any time again soon. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I have not asked anyone to create an article on me, and nor have I "enlisted" anyone for help. Please tell me any instance where any of my so called friends have supported me in this discussion. The only instance is that of a person I do not even know. Let me state once again, I HAVE NOT asked anyone else to create articles for myself. If they have done so on their own, please dictate that to them by messaging them, not me. Also please be assured that articles will not be created again anytime soon, I will make it clear to any of those I know personally to not do so. You do not have to tell me that. If I am requesting a deletion myself, it kind of makes it obvious doesn't it? Thanks Destinedfortop (talk) 14:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I would be personally placing tags for speedy deletion on Carve Your Destiny and this page. Administrators, be assured that the pages will not be recreated. Kindly delete both Carve Your Destiny and Anubhav Srivastava. I am just tired of debating over the same thing since the past couple of days and feel it is best that the articles be taken off Wikipedia. Thanks Destinedfortop (talk) 15:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

On a second note, it is better that the person who created this article place that notice himself. That should be up too in a few hours. Thanks Destinedfortop (talk) 15:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.