Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/April 2018 North American storm complex


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I spent most of March and April shoveling this crap from my driveway. Now I get to shovel the article. Seems only fair. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 North American storm complex

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per WP:NOTNEWS. It snowed. The end. The claim of "largest severe weather outbreak of the season" appears to be puffery by Accuweather. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 01:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. WeAreAll Here  talk  02:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS. Acnetj (talk) 03:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 *  Keep Keep or redirect  - The "year’s most extensive severe weather outbreak" should have a page on Wikipedia, and we are not even half finished with April. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * As I said, puffery. It's going to snow again this weekend, possibly a bigger storm; my WP:CRYSTAL ball is unclear. It's unclear to me what the article title is supposed to refer to ("storm complex"?), or why it would be a plausible search term for 2017–18 North American winter. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 21:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 *  Reply - If the article can not be kept, it should be redirected as a plausible search term, as this is how such articles are usually titled. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete A portion of this article is dedicated to when you can catch your postponed flight (!?). If that does not shout WP:NOTNEWS, not much else will. Although it probably will be the "biggest" winter storm of 2018, that doesn't actually explain why this requires a seperate article, given the lack of lasting significance we have at this point.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 13:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 *  Reply -, where does the article talk about "when you can catch your postponed flight"? I have just added a reference that talks about several tornadoes, temperature and snowfall records.  December 2015 North American storm complex, Late December 2012 North American storm complex, December 2013 North American storm complex, April 2016 North American storm complex and January 2008 North American storm complex also use similar wording for their article titles. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete - NOTNEWS. Just another snowstorm. Agricolae (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge (splitting up?) - The other "Complexes" have a date range, but this article has become a "Monthly Weather Review" (not the "journal"). I don't think there is an overarching weather system, like the other complexes listed above. While it was a tornado outbreak with many wind events, it wasn't the largest tornado outbreak of the season, and is already covered here as a list. It was cold and snowy in some places for "Winter Storm Xanto" . This shows the last 30 days of flight cancelations with a big bump March 21 and a smaller April 14. Daily Weather Maps StrayBolt (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. A lot of snow and some inconvenience.  No great loss of life or extensive property damage. Transient mentions in the news but no lasting significance.  Kablammo (talk) 01:24, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not even clear whether the 2 april "natural disaster" (sic!) and e.g. the 15 April snowfall have anything to do with each other. Seems like a WP:COATRACK article more than anything else. Fram (talk) 06:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 *  Comment  -, , , , : Why should the term not be redirected with history? --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:47, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Jax, there is no indication that the early month and midmonth storms were related in any way. So where would you redirect? Separate sections in 2017–18 North American winter?  Kablammo (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 *  Reply - Sounds good to me, else a section for April like we have for March. It seems users are too triggerhappy to delete instead of redirect. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I think the content belongs in that article, and it may not need two sections. Including them in the section would April would work, but we should not treat the two storms as part of the same event unless a reliable source says otherwise.  Kablammo (talk) 14:17, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What is the point - it seems rather unlikely someone is going to use that as a search term, and if no text is to be merged no purpose is served by preserving the history of a misfire. Agricolae (talk) 15:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is a plausible redirect target, though if the consensus here disagrees I'm not going to mind at all. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 21:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , suggest copying what is worth saving to 2017–18 North American winter, maybe add an "Early-April" section. StrayBolt (talk) 04:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Why is the latest tornado outbreak in 2017–18 North American winter? Why would we put this information there? Winter is over.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Many of the other "North American winter" articles do extend into April or even May, if there was a major snow event (which might include an outbreak). Other than the two date ranges of 3 months, I don't know if WP editors have created criteria. Most of the big snow events in the north occur during March and April. I didn't find any "North American spring" articles. StrayBolt (talk) 01:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * April in Minnesota.png Winter is over?  This is what April can look like in the Midwest.  Winter and spring are not always determined by the calendar.  Kablammo (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not news, and not every weather event merits an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if one considers these different storms in different places on different days as a single event or topic, it's just this Winter's weather.  Deli nk (talk) 23:04, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.