Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arappatta Kettiya Gramathil


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The result was withdrawn by nom. PC78 (talk) 22:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Arappatta Kettiya Gramathil

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Contested prod; a few sources have been added to the article, but they do little other than mention the film by name and offer no substantial coverage. No evidence that this film meets WP:NF. PC78 (talk) 11:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 11:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —  Salih  ( talk ) 12:07, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Mention in the Encyclopaedia of Indian cinema indicates notability. Given that India has produced millions of films it must have some note or it wouldn't be mentioned. Meets requirements.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Sukumari won the Kerala State Award for this film, it has another notable actor in the lead role - Mammootty, it was directed by Padmarajan who has won many Kerala State Awards for direction and script, so the film should definitely pass WP:NF but Indian news outlets do not have online archives prior to 2000 or so, so a search for offline sources is required. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 18:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I will gladly withdraw this nom if that award can be sourced. With respect to Blofeld, that encylopedia reference doesn't cut it. It's hard to tell from that Google books links alone, but it appearsd to only be listed in a filmography. PC78 (talk) 23:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well admittedly I didn't check the link and I agree it isn't substantial. But this is a good link and it seems the director is a notable one. I think you are confusing notability with the uneveness in web coverage. Malayalam, Filipino and Indonesian films etc are not going to recevie the same amount of web coverage as even Bollywood or Korean films but generally if the film is of featured length, it was directed by and starred mainstream actors withint a given country it should be within guidelines in general. The films which starred one off actors or were produced independently can usually be spooted a mile off. I believe you have selected several notable mainstream films within the respective industries for deletion based upon the poor web coverage on them. Well I can tell you that Azerbaijan has a thriving film industry yet imdb only listed like 50 films. I agree though, lack of adequate sources is a problem and you are justified to question them.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 14:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why bother with that award when the Padma Shri award to both Sukumari and Mammootty is not in question, given that this was also for contributions to cinema, and the award has been given to about 2100 people from a total population of way over 1.5 billion (during the life of the award). -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 00:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you've lost me. PC78 (talk) 00:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Padma Shri is a way more notable award, and two of the leading actors in the movie have received that, so why bother about lesser awards? -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 01:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Are those award wins related to this film? PC78 (talk) 02:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Source has been added for the award. So, perhaps time to close the AfD. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 20:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Page needs work, but the director's high notability plus several notable actors seems to pass NF to me. --Junius49 (talk) 23:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sukumari won the Kerala State Film Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role Malu Amma in the film. Credit to User:Pablomismo for adding the source. Salih  ( talk ) 19:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Sufficient references, especially the award, to show notability. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 20:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn. I don't see the "Sufficient references", but the awards are a tangible enough claim of notability. PC78 (talk) 22:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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