Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arbornet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. — FireFox 10:26, 29 May '06

Arbornet
Non-notable organization, article is somewhat comprehensive so discussion on AfD seems appropriate. Gail Wynand 03:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Organization is mentioned in several news sources. Bongout 03:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Arbornet's M-net is apparently the world's first public access Unix system, which sounds pretty notable, but I can't find many sources on Arbornet itself. Zepheus 04:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with Grex if either of them make it through AfD. RobLinwood 04:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I wonder if a merge of both Arbornet and Grex into a new "History of computer conferencing in Ann Arbor" article linked from the Ann Arbor article would be appropriate. My concern is that these individual BBSs have very little notability, but a strong claim can be made that the history of computer conferencing in Ann Arbor is, in fact, a notable subject. Gail Wynand 19:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment We're not talking about a whole fleet of old-fashioned bbs's, but rather, just two systems, both of which incorporated as community-based 501-c-3 nonprofits, and both of which have been running continuously for many years with thousands of users each.  They are related, of course, but distinct.  There is no third or fourth or nth separate story to fold into a broader discussion.  Kestenbaum 14:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete although M-Net may be notable, I don't see any evidence that Arbotnet passes WP:CORP. Kevin 11:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Zepheus --Ed (Edgar181) 12:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Per Zepheus Computerjoe 's talk 14:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Arbornet is not a for-profit company, thus should not be judged on the basis of WP:CORP. Nathan 15:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Seems to be the oldest not-for-profit public access unix system in the USA--Nick Y. 00:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Article referring to M-Net as the world's first public access Unix system. Mnet also has its own wikipedia page, which Arbornet oddly doesn't even link to. Zepheus 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Mnet is not the same thing. There is a dab link to Arbornet at M-Net. Kestenbaum 20:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep This article is extremely important.
 * —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daloonik (talk • contribs) 2006-05-25 04:19:35 (UTC) User's 8th edit; a suspected sockpuppet of User:Bongout. Henning Makholm 02:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. I Lo ve Plankton ( L) 16:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep M-Net is pretty significant in the history of online conferencing, predating The WELL, which started on the same software and with (as I understand it) some people from M-Net. The WELL had more stars and got more national attention, but M-Net and its spinoff Grex (also the subject of a current AfD) had more users; together they served as a major community resource. Kestenbaum 20:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.