Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arceus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon. Daniel (talk) 02:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Arceus

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Lacks notability, and a lot of the Reception content is padded to give the impression of notability. I removed much of what was there that was padding, but you may look at the history to see if you feel that the removed content was valuable reception. Also lacks background info on its creation. Bryn (talk) (contributions) 00:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show it passes WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon, fails GNG. No prejudice to recreation should sources be found however. Link20XX (talk) 03:14, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon, unfortunate for the articles being redirected. 180.194.130.4 (talk) 03:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon: Non-notable and lacks significant independent coverage. Redirect preferred instead of outright deletion. These probably could've been batch nom'd. Curbon7 (talk) 03:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: Certainly one of the most iconic Pokémon. I also question the wisdom of this with a new game centering around Arceus coming out. I understand wanting to axe Entei, but not Arceus. Sailor Ceres (talk) 05:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * As the creator of the article, I do get it. Yet, notability in a game doesn't mean that the Pokémon will get significant coverage. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 08:02, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon is the fairest thing to do. Arceus is not notable on his own right. If the game that went out makes Arceus notable, let's make it after it happens, not now when it is clearly not the case. SunDawn  talk  13:30, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Since removed the notability tag from the article with the reasoning "it is a well-known Pokémon", I would like to invite them to participate. Link20XX (talk) 15:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, thanks for the ping. I restored the article because I feel there should always be discussion before an article is turned into a redirect, however, I should have left the notability tag up as I'm not too fussed whether this is kept or not. After all, it is already covered by Bulbapedia. Having played Pokemon in the past this is one of the few names I remember, this was the reason for removing the tag. I'll stay neutral here. NemesisAT (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per, , and . Maybe as well if it is reliable. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of generation IV Pokémon, clearly fails WP:GNG.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:30, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per (Oinkers42). The CBR ones aren't very helpful to demonstrate notability, but the NME and Polygon are both reliable sources and their coverage, when analyzed in conjunction with existing cited sources, scrapes the threshold of WP:GNG for me. Haleth (talk) 01:30, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Oinkers42's sources. Satisfies WP:GNG. Mlb96 (talk) 03:39, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the List of generation IV Pokémon. Being the mascot of an entry into the video game series has not been enough reason for stand-alone articles (as demonstrated by the lack of individual articles on Kyogre, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Dialga, etc.) The article as it currently is fails to meet Notability. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  21:15, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of generation IV Pokémon. Not seeing how this meets GNG but some content can enrich the target list which has a note section, but currently the Arceus notes are unreferenced gibberishy game guide; I'd replace that with out reception. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:31, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per above sources, appears to have lots of coverage, and is onw of the more well known in the Franchise.Seacactus 13 (talk) 23:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Transwiki game guide style content to Pokémon/Pokédex/Arceus --Mbrickn (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.