Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arctic Magic Flute


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to The Magic Flute. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 08:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Arctic Magic Flute

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Seems to have problems meeting WP:NOTABILITY guidelines. There is no sourcing currently. Of the three EL's one is a dead link and the other two no longer have any info about this specific production. As it stands I think it should be deleted. OTOH if it can be improved I would change this to keep MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:19, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Please understand that, while I wish I had been in the audience to see this, it looks as though it was an event restricted to 2007 and maybe 2008. If there had been performances since then it might help but I cannot find any mention of them. If the decision is to delete this article it should, probably, also be removed from The Magic Flute. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:35, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  00:46, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  00:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak delete per nom. In addition to the sparse coverage in the article now I found three more sources mentioning this opera:   But these sources (except the last) just mention it, they don't cover it in enough depth or detail to meet any notability guidelines. So although it does come close, in my opinion, nevertheless this appears not to meet WP:GNG. Also, only 45 Google hits, which is not a good sign for something made this recently.  Jinkinson   talk to me  00:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Magic Flute and keep the page as a redirect, given the passing mentions in the press. A brief paragraph on this adaptation and one or two references would fit well there. This article was created just as the show was about to open. As often happens here, Wikipedia articles are (a) useful publicity and (b) save on making your own web page. There simply isn't enough coverage of this show (adaptation) or any repeat performances after that first tour to three cities in Alaska to justify a stand-alone article. It really is no different from a lot of fairly radical productions of other standard operas, e.g. Jonathan Miller's Rigoletto set in New York City amongst the Mafia, and in fact has much less coverage than Miller's production has had. The music is also the same, simply cut. I'd be happy to do the merge, if that's the decision. Voceditenore (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

 Support Voceditenore's suggestion, Merge to The Magic Flute and keep the page as a redirect. That is, if decent citation(s) can be found. This is not a separate musical work, just an (admittedly slightly unusual) production. Like Joanna MacGregor's version a few years ago in London, with chamber ensemble accompaniment and updated to 21st century world of journalism (in which my daughter WP:OR sang 3rd boy). Worth a mention, but not a separate article.--Smerus (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Voceditenore's suggestion: Agree that it really does need at least one useful citation. Viva-Verdi (talk) 17:37, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge per Voceditenore, notable enough to be included in some regard with The Magic Flute, but not enough for it's own article. Peterborough Street (talk) 20:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.