Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Are All Men Pedophiles?


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The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:53, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Are All Men Pedophiles?

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This is an upcoming documentary for which there are no independent reliable sources yet. There are references on Imbd, but those don't count as reliable sources as there is no editorial control. The ref to sideways film isn't independent (but from the publisher). Though I think this movie will garner some press, we're not a crystal ball, and until that materialises, I don't think we should keep this article. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:53, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree that although this may (or may not) need the criteria for inclusion in the future, it does not as it currently stands. IMDB is not sufficient, and there does not appear to be any independent coverage at reliable sources.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 15:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The page has a link to IDFA http://www.idfa.nl/nl/tags/project.aspx?id=7F02F4C8-4D81-4273-9179-31E43164AEDF and sideways film, thats very reliable Article needs some work. Movie is not yet out, so for now its reasonable. I made some correctionsMeryllid (talk) 15:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC) — Meryllid (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The content on sideway films is not independent, it is the publisher (at least, it seems it is. Is it? If not, how is sideways connected to the film?). About the IDFA link (thanks for finding that!), is that independent? Was that content written by IDFA staff, or is it a press release, or otherwise content written by the publisher or the director? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 17:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete/transwiki to Uncyclopedia This article is as bereft of truly reliable sources as the film's thesis is of tenability. Pedophilia is clearly defined by WP:MEDRS as a predominate sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. Colloquially, "pedophiles" are defined as criminals who engage in child sexual abuse. To say that because many men happen to find young women who have reached biological sexual maturity but are under the legal age of consent attractive, in addition to whatever other sexual preferences they may have, and regardless of whether they act illicitly upon such impulses, that all men are pedophiles, in either the medical or colloquial sense, is ridiculous. Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, transwikied to . Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: I found zero significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 21:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfy per WP:TOOSOON. Not yet released, not yet notable.--Cavarrone (talk) 10:32, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

IDFA is totally managed by IDFA, indipendent, the reason why I contributed to the page is to steer people in the right direction, pedophilia is not just prepubertal, it's way more complicated than that, please read the ICD and the DSM if you want to quote 'proffesional terms'86.83.126.171 (talk) 14:07, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But the text that is there, is that written by IDFA staff, or is the text submitted to IDFA who placed it? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Not generally notable WP:GNG The film has not been released yet and will not be released until sometime in 2012, according to its Wiki authors. Today's date is 11/30/2011. It is possible it may not be released at all. I did find some results here but the budget for the film is 4,000 euros or about $5,000.00 dollars US and says it was released this year (2011).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior777 (talk • contribs) 07:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, does not appear to meet the general notability criteria, no matter how many references to blogs, IMDB, etc. are added. Creating a film, book or musical work, and getting it added to databases, does not of itself make it notable. -- The Anome (talk) 20:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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