Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Are We There Yet?: Tales from the Never-Ending Travels of WWE Superstars


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Wizardman 16:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Are We There Yet?: Tales from the Never-Ending Travels of WWE Superstars

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Seemingly non notable book. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 04:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete nn wrestling book, no assert of notability. Dannycali 03:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, award winning book with plenty of reliable sources. Will expand article to reflect these facts after this post.  Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 03:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment As I have said before, this above user stalks me in AFDs that I participate in, and votes opposite to spite me. Again, not every book related to wrestling needs their own article, just a rehash of an Amazon.com summary.  There is a WWE Books page that properly lists the titles.  Furthermore, the award you claimed the book won is not an award, the book was just mentioned on a reading list for teens.  That is a trivial mention and shows no assertion of notability.  The book never sold well, and does not deserve its own page. Dannycali 06:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Please note, that Danny has a tendency to post after me in many AFDs apparently just to disagree with me. Consider, for example, my post on 06:35, 25 September 2007 followed by Danny's post on 03:30, 26 September 2007.  He is in no position to make allegations against anyone.  Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 16:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment You are dead wrong, I do not post discussions on AFDs just to spite anyone, I know you do, but I do not. You are in no position to make allegations against anyone since you have been banned here previously for misconduct.  How else would you have known about this discussion?  You more than likely just looked at my contributions history and just posted a keep argument just to tinker around.  You need to stay away from me and stop it with the stalking.  People like you are what is wrong with WP.  Dannycali 06:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please do not edit other people's comments and please stop harassing me. You are distracting from the actual discussions.  Thank you.  Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 18:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Both of you are making unacceptable guesses about the other's motives. Please comment on the actions of other editors and not their motivations; motives are nearly impossible to assess in a text-based environment. I requested that you two avoid each other. If you're not going to do that, you need to participate civilly with other contributors on this project or not at all.--Chaser - T 19:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Dear Chaser, if Danny comments on my posts in the future, should I just ignore him then? If you think that would work best, I'd be willing to give it a try.  Sincerely, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 19:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, you should ignore him. He can't argue if there's nobody to argue against. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 04:09, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If either of you continues in this manner, I will block for a short time to prevent any further disruption. Ignoring assumptions of bad faith is often effective, but neither of you should be enduring comments like these from the other. It, of course, is simpler if you just avoid each other, but we haven't been able to do that so far.--Chaser - T 03:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, as non-notable Nikki311 16:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. Also, WTF was this soap-opera above this? Dear Lord,  The  Hyb  rid  23:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep for having a minor award and several reviews. A pretty unimportant book, but it appears to meet the notability guidelines and we aren't running out of space.-- Kubigula (talk) 03:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment You should have looked at things more closely. First, this book is not "award winning", it was put randomly on a reading list.  Second, there are 3 reviews listed, but none of them are from mainstream WP:RS, they are just self-published web sources.  And the other reference is for a library listing of ones that have the book.  Your argument is total junk, especially the "WP isn't running out of space", sure, but we still need to set standards. Dannycali 04:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's the most obnoxious comment I've seen on AFD in a while. For what it's worth, the argument that you refer to as "especially" total junk is actually part of Wikipedia policy - WP:NOTPAPER.  I also have to say that your comment makes your statement above ("People like you are what is wrong with WP") ironic, as this kind of pointless venom is really what is not needed at WP.-- Kubigula (talk) 05:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, the comment was venomous and the anger was completely unnecessary, but the concerns over the sources ad the "award" are legit.  The  Hyb  rid  06:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete- I vote delete for every minor, two-bit wrestling book/personality, and this will eb no different, much like the ridiculous R.D.Reynolds, who was somehow kept.JJJ999 13:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.