Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Are you afraid of the dark? (2019 miniserie)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Barkeep49 (talk) 12:28, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Are You Afraid of the Dark? (2019 miniseries)

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Should be still merged into Are You Afraid of the Dark?. Fits under crystal ball. From AnUnnamedUser (open talk page) 23:51, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to meet WP:Notability guidelines. (miniserie) seems to have just been a typo in this AfD creation. --Doug Mehus (talk) 02:36, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:24, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support deletion and suppress redirect per Dmehus above. There isn't really any useful information, nor are there any reliable citations, in this article that could be merged into Are You Afraid of the Dark?. – Matthew  - (talk) 12:46, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge. None of the other seasons of Are You Afraid of the Dark? have individual articles and because this article has minimal content (that could be included in the parent article), it makes more sense to merge it. The 2019 miniserie is already mentioned in the parent article and further information about it could be added there. Nonetheless, the topic is obviously notable (anyone living in North America would be aware of this). Articles in USA Today, Mashable , and Entertainment Weekly all have articles about the miniserie. desmay (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Desmay. Clearly passes WP:GNG and WP:NTV. This should never have been brought to AFD. Crystal was a poor argument given the program aired less than 24 hours after the nomination and was therefore aired during the window of this AFD. AFD is not the propper forum for a merger discussion unless there is a serious argument for deletion (which there isn't in this case). The closing admin could close as keep or merge per others above if desired. The proper process for this should have been taging the article for merger and discussing it on the article's talk page instead of taking this to AFD.4meter4 (talk) 18:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , WP:NTV defaults to WP:GNG. There is no presumable notability for broadcast shows, like it says "however, the presence or absence of reliable sources is more definitive than the geographic range of the program's audience alone." Also, you haven't shown any sources for GNG. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment This is going to be a clear case of a no-consensus AfD, so no vote from me. The sources posted by Desmay are hardly sufficient for WP:GNG (only USA Today one is barely OK). But, there are WP:SIGCOV of the miniseries at Paste (magazine), Consequence of Sound , Mashable (a different article than that was posted), Decider (website) , TV Guide , Den of Geek . The rest seems to be WP:ROUTINE. Enough for a standalone article even if not that much notable. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging and  just in case. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I say we close this discussion and move the article in question to "Are You Afraid of the Dark? (2019 miniseries)", in order to fix both the capitalization and the misspelling of "miniseries". Let's also get some citations in there (as I'm typing this, the only citation present is a link to the program's IMDb page). After that, someone can open a discussion on the article's talk page about whether or not it should be merged into Are You Afraid of the Dark?. What do you all think? – Matthew  - (talk) 19:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , I wouldn't say it'll be no consensus. Merge and Redirect are variants on Keep. My support is conditional on suppressing the redirect, per speedy criteria for obvious typographical errors. Matthew echoed the same support. Original proposer proposed merge or delete, so that means they will go either way. When you add those together, that's a clear consensus of 60% in favour of delete or merge with suppression of the redirect. Only one user has voted to merge keeping the redirect and, as you said, the sources cited by desmay do not provide WP:SIGCOV. At the same time, 4meter4 favoured either keep or merge. Thus, we have unanimity to merge here...the question is whether to retain the typo as a redirect, for which I'd argue for closing administrator to exercise good, independent judgment and authority and just delete it on the basis that, should someone feel the typo is useful, they can re-create it without prejudice. However, I suspect no one will see it as useful. Doug Mehus (talk) 19:58, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I oppose merge here as I think sources I have posted demonstrate notability. I also support what Matthew has said, close the AfD and move the discussion to the talk page. Another fact here, this is a reboot/separate series from the original, and as such it isn't just another season of the show. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:29, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I have moved the article to the proper title, which is fixed in both this AfD and in the article (which also suffered from miscapitalizations). I have also repaired WLs in few articles that linked to this. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:31, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , You should not have done this until the AfD closed. Doug Mehus (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The point was to suppress the redirect. Doug Mehus (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I just tried to access the (miniserie) one and none existed. So, perhaps it was just a typo in this AfD? Doug Mehus (talk) 20:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I changed my vote to Keep. My concern was with (miniserie) and wanting to delete the redirect. Doug Mehus (talk) 20:55, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.