Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arhangel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Owen&times; &#9742;  18:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Arhangel

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No reference tag since December 2009. Needs references to establish notability. Nipson anomhmata  (Talk) 16:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - lots of Macedonian language references, including this one - . I'm pretty sure that an editor with a decent understanding of the language should be able to justify keeping this based on the criteria of WP:BAND, but I'm finding it hard to extricate information via google translate. --Anthem of joy (talk) 17:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Macedonia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep: Nom is invalid.  Lack of references is only a valid deletion rationale for BLP-PROD articles created after March 18, 2010.  Also, multiple foreign-language sources do appear to exist.--Milowent • talkblp-r  17:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I would go further than Milowent's "invalid" and class this as a bad faith nomination from an editor who seems to think that any article about a subject associated with any of Greece's neighbours (don't you get on with anyone?) should be deleted. There are many examples of such ethnic-POV nominations in Nipsonanomhmata's editing history, including the ridiculous nomination of Rauf Denktaş. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a bad faith comment and a personal attack. This was a random article that I came across with an old no reference tag. Denktash was not a ridiculous nomination. He was a thug who made himself the president of an illegal puppet regime. He deserves to be nominated every hour of the day and every day of the week for eternity. Why don't you stick to the subject at hand and make a recommendation on this article. If you think Arhangel is worth keeping then why not do something constructive instead and say so.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 00:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nips., i have no idea what you are talking about, but it doesn't help your argument any. Lots of thugs (real or alleged) are notable.--Milowent • talkblp-r  03:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The only notability claimed was "President" and a President he never was (only the Republic of Turkey thinks that he was) [and no independent foreign-country citations from reliable third-party sources are provided within the article, which is why I nominated him i.e. his "Presidency" lacked notability]. He wasn't even a notable thug. Hope that clarifies it for you. But we are off-topic and this has nothing to do with Arhangel and btw there are still no references listed in the article.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 20:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Article needs improvement, which is possible given the foreign language sources available. A need for improvement is not a valid reason for deletion. Also, those who are suspicious about the nomination are probably barking up the right tree. -- D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 17:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment A Greek nationalist who wants to delete the neighbouring country's rock groups based on nationalist reasons. Why? Because the Greek motherland will lose prestige if RoM's rock groups succeed? Tsk tsk.Please re-examine your logic. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 17:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right. I'll have to think of a better strategy to take over the world. :-) rofl  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 22:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I could see a plausible reason to be accused of nationalist motives if the group were named "Alexander the Great" or "Macedonia is ours" but "Arhangel" is quite an uncontroversial name. On the other hand you may be motivated by the belief that Greek rock is so superior to the version in RoM that you can't stand seeing these upstarts trying to steal the glory of the motherland. I can't say that I'd blame you for that. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 22:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.