Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ari Enkin


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:11, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ari Enkin

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Non-notable rabbi and author and blogger. [Removed comment felt as attacking by at least one editor below. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo]] הסרפד  (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 15:48, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For integrity's sake, I should point out that Enkin is not utterly obscure; he is, however, a moderately well-known Jewish blogger; but looking at the second AfD of his more notable associate Gil Student (that resulted in "keep") I see that references to great prominence as a blogger were required. Also, Student's notability is partially due to his being a prominent polemicist, which Enkin is not. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 03:45, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Gil Student is many notches above Enkin. It is not just that he is a better "polemicist" -- it is that he is genuinely more learned and has published more extensively, and has a wide following among serious readers, and has been recognized by his peers for his work. IZAK (talk) 14:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right; I only chose one point (the main subject of Student's AfD) among many. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 17:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. While what little I can find shows that he'd probably be usable as a reliable source for Jewish articles and topics, that status does not in and of itself mean that he passes notability guidelines. I can find some trivial mentions, but nothing that would suggest that he passes notability guidelines for WP:AUTHOR or general biography guidelines.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 16:27, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete. NN- does not pass notability guidelines. No significant mentions.--Jayrav (talk) 03:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete this violation of WP:NOTMYSPACE and WP:COI. Not a notable person in the Jewish world, there are tens of thousands of more notable people in his age range and none desire or do what he does seeking the limelight. IZAK (talk) 14:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep It is an interesting piece. Hasirpad - Your accusation would have more credibility if you cited your source or at least divulged your true name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.117.240.101 (talk) 14:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)  — 192.117.240.101 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I don't need to justify my accusation, because whether or not the article is deleted does not depend on that. The original 'accuser' is not active on Wikipedia any more (I was told, casually, of the self-promotional request at least four years ago!), and in any case probably does not want Rabbi Enkin to know his screen-name.
 * As for me, I find your demand to know my sources or my "true name" (am I a dwarf?) suspicious. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 17:22, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Upon rereading your statement, 192.117.240.101, I perceive, from your defensive tone, that you completely misunderstood my intention in divulging the origin of the article: I did not intend to defame either the subject (many are innocently unaware that Wikipedia is not LinkedIn or the like) or the article's creator (many editors in good standing on Wikipedia think that multiple authorship implies notability—watch the daily AfD log for countless examples). I give my sincerest apologies to all those offended.
 * My intent, as those who frequent the Articles for deletion log have surely realized, was rather to
 * (a) justify the nomination for deletion of a well-written article that does indicate its subject importance, and
 * (b) to give an additional argument for deletion (but as mentioned above, I do not rest my case on this). הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 00:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep (I wrote the original article) Rabbi Enkin is not only a noted blogger, but he also wrote and published several books, which, in my opinion, put him over the threshold for notability. Happy138 (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally speaking, having written and published books usually does not satisfy notability criteria - I think the relevant policy is WP:AUTHOR - which is why I addressed the issue from the blogger angle primarily. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 17:22, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Rabbi Enkin's bio is unique and inspirational. There is hardly a ba'al teshuva anywhere today that has accomplished as much as Enkin has in such a relatively short period of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.190.25 (talk) 05:31, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Self published works that are not cited or reviewed by greater Rabbinic scholars do not count. Inspiration of a conversion tale is not the criteria for Wikipedia. He is not even a noted blogger. Student, the author of Torahmusings gets his opinion quoted in newspapers, Enkin does not.--Jayrav (talk) 15:23, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Struck out double !vote. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 20:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG. Inspirational does not equal notable.--Nixie9 (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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