Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arianna Criscione


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus to delete, with none of the keep votes making any serious attempt to discuss quality of sources available. The table is in this instance useful in summarising existing sources. None of them in themselves indicate GNG. No harm in recreating if additional sources can be provided to show GNG. Fenix down (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Arianna Criscione

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Fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:NCOLLATH; news coverage all routine for WP:GNG Mightytotems (talk) 20:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep She plays in a top tier league (Division 1 Féminine). Meets WP:NFOOTY. End of story. And before anyone comes at me with a claim that most female leagues aren't included, that's because of a major failing of every Wikiproject Football member on every level, whose biases on not documenting women's football is atrocious. Silver  seren C 05:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Playing in a top division does not mean a player meets WP:NFOOTY. The league has to be fully-professional, which Division 1 Féminine is not. Number   5  7  14:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete She fails WP:NFOOTY despite the above claim. Criscione has never played in a fully professional league or for a senior international side. WP:GNG is also failed. Dougal18 (talk) 08:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails NFOOTY and GNG. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails both GNG and NFOOTBALL. Playing in a top-tier league is irrelevant, the league must be fully professional (which hers is not). See WP:FPL. GiantSnowman 18:52, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number   5  7  14:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I think we should further limit default notability for all sports to the top league of that sport in that country, and of course they must be fully pro, but this article does not even meet our current too broad inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Too broad inclusion criteria for male players, you mean? Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep A long career in leagues just outside the arbitrary Wiki-notable list will often throw up plenty of sustained coverage. See for example Ryan-Zico Black. We don't always need to be so rigidly dogmatic about these things. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 19:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep She plays in the top-tier league in France. (She has tons of coverage on that basis, too.) That NFOOTY argues for keeping tens of thousands of articles on one-game male players who could not pass GNG in a million years but tries to suggest that top-tier women players aren't notable isn't a problem with the articles or the topics, it's a problem with WikiProject Football that needs correcting urgently. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 13:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - Article about semi-pro footballer who has played sparingly in several European top-division leagues and made the substitute's bench for Italy's national team, but isn't the subject of in-depth coverage in reliable sources. I've summarized the most significant online coverage I could find from Dutch-, English-, French-, Italian-, and Swedish-language sources in the table below, and I don't believe it is enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 15:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep - Quick Google search shows she easily passes GNG, which takes precedence over NFOOTY. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 16:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If you found sources which go towards meeting the GNG, would you please add to the table above (or at least provide a link, and I will do so)? I did more than a quick Google search and reached the conclusion that the GNG is not easily met (if at all). Jogurney (talk) 20:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as per KingSkyLord. Cheers, 1292simon (talk)


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