Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arick Wierson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Even with the SPAs, there's enough comments from regular editors to determine consensus (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Arick Wierson

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Reason Syntheticlife4m (talk) 02:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC) This doesn't apply to Wikipedia's guidelines for notoriety for living biographies. Looking at the references provided, this appears to be a momentary person of minimal local fame, not a major political figure or celebrity with any potential of lasting importance. If anything, it sounds more like a boost for one's own resume, especially with the "accomplishments." Some of the reference links are dead links or lead the a different page than listed.


 * OBJECTION TO DELETION NYC TV is a major station in NY area; gets lots of attention in country's top media market. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.157.254 (talk) 04:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)  — 24.105.157.254 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Note: User Syntheticlife4m was created less than 1 hour before attempting to perform multiple unilateral deletions on other notable television celebrities and producers including Kelly Choi and Harry Hunkele, both Emmy winning TV producers. Choi is new host of Bravo's Top Chef. Appears User Syntheticlife4m has personal animus against Wierson, Choi and Hunkele.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellen 73 (talk • contribs)


 * Keep - seems notable to me. Sources such as NY Times, and other periodicals confirm Wierson played major role in developing New York TV. Conforms to Wikipedia notable standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellen 73 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)  — Tellen 73 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Objection to Bid to Delete - A quick Google search indicates Wierson is explicitly credited, thanked, and congratulated by NY Mayor Bloomberg for his work with the New York Media Group. News media sources also confirm: "When New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced the merger of WNYE(TV) and WNYE(FM) with NYC TV on Jan. 30, he made Arick Wierson one of the most important people in New York media." (http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional/7680490-1.html) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.10.224 (talk • contribs) — 166.217.10.224 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Objection!! Admin Don't Delete!! This is so clearly some disgruntled current employee of Wierson. I can tell by the IP address of the latest attempt. I will look into this and report the name of the user. Outragous! Like him or not he built the biggest media group in NYC. And I am sure he stepped on a few toes in the process. But that deserves to be out there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.158.21 (talk • contribs) — 161.185.158.21 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Please do not attempt to find out the real world names of Wikipedia editors, or threaten real world action on the basis of editing here. Both are strictly prohibited.. DGG (talk) 08:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. So far, all of the participants (including the nominator) have few contributions outside this subject. Perhaps in part that was because the nomination was not properly linked into the deletion logs, and in part because two of the IPs objecting above to the deletion also removed the AfD notice from the article. I am completing the nomination now. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - I'm not happy with the shenanigans, but it looks to me he's notable (New York is kind of a major market). There may be problems with the Controversy section that need to be cleaned up (and soon) as well as too much detail as to specifics on other issues, but a notable producer in a major market, particularly with that many sources, is likely notable. Shadowjams (talk) 05:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep clearly meets WP:PEOPLE. --Pontificalibus (talk) 06:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep major broadcast figure, well referenced article. DGG (talk) 08:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep seems notable. Looking at the references provided, at least 7 of them are reliable and verifiable Rirunmot (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - It looks a lot like this was a false alarm - the user who created this is a brand new user whose only contributions are a few select AfD's. Ulterior motive? Luminifer (talk) 11:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding original nomination. "Local fame" makes no sense when the locality has 8,000,000 people in the city limits and 18,000,000 in the metro area.  The metro area would be the 60th largest country in the world by population if it were a country. Drawn Some (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - looks like a bad-faith nomination from where I sit...although the article could use a little cleaning. Eddie.willers (talk) 00:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree entry should stay but I am also suspicious that the "controversy and criticisms" section might have personal issues associated with it. Vintageriesling (talk) 13:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Nom seems to have made several of these AfDs, all aimed at linked articles. Taelus (talk) 15:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP - The AfD seems targeted and not based on merit. I found this release about Wierson bringing the BBC to the New York market which gives a somewhat clear indication of the level of executive that Wierson represents: http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/03-20-2009/0004992029&EDATE= Ps: I later found the same one sourced on the page in questions. 24.105.157.254 (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm undecided, but I do question the validity, which is up to Wikipedia to decide. So far many of the links aseem to just be standard press releases, which other periodicals will print just for content's sake. It says in his entry, that he's left office, so does that mean he will still get press blurbs? It's kind of like when a local TV anchor gets an entry, but never makes it past one TV station. I agree it needs cleaning up though,since there seems to be some embellishment, instead of straight facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.18.63 (talk) 23:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * COMMENT I agree with above that press releases are generally inferior to legitimate third-party articles by reputable news sources; however, given that there are releases largely being emitted by the Mayor of New York, I think they do have some secondary relevance that a private company release would not have. The fact that news journalists pick up on these is a fact of life - that is how news is made. After reading these comments and scanning the citations and checking the links, I am comfortable with the releases in the context that there are many reputable news sources cited as well - NY Daily News, NY Times, Broadcasting & Cable, etc. In general it seems that this fellow Arick Wierson is a significant player in the New York media market - which is more than just the largest market in the U.S., but significant in that New York happens to be the "media capital" of the country and perhaps the world - where national and even international trends are established and then spread throughout the world. 201.73.223.130 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * DELETE This page serves no purpose, it's a feeble attempt at self promotion. Trevor Scotland who worked at NYCTV was arrested for embezzling $60,000. Coincidentally two managers resigned a week after the arrest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tisdale79 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability is established by dozens of reliable and verifiable sources about the subject. Alansohn (talk) 22:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.