Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ariel Wayz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 08:35, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Ariel Wayz

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Unable to find enough resources in published reliable sources. fails WP:GNG. DMySon (talk) 07:56, 30 April 2022 (UTC) Blocked sock  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:46, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Artists,  and Music. DMySon (talk) 07:56, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women,  and Africa.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep There's reporting on her from The New Times and so I added it in and she seems like a notable musician in Rwanda. 11:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The above comment was by me at 11:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC). CT55555 (talk) 17:29, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Per request on my Talk, I have reverted my close, restored the article and am relisting for further discussion as to whether The New Times content is editorial or promotional. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  17:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing more than paid for vanity spam. Merely having your name appear in a notable publication doesn't make it inherently reliable, doubly so when said publications take pay for publication without disclosure. The sourcing is weak and there isn't anything better to be found. PRAXIDICAE💕  15:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Further comment I've just realized/remembered, the nominator is sock blocked so I should have relisted this regardless of the query on my Talk. Apologies. Star   Mississippi  17:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment (I already !voted keep above) I think this hinges on if The New Times is a reliable source. I honestly don't know. Here's what I can ascertain:
 * 1) It's the first listed newspapers on BBC for Rwanda newspapers https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14093244
 * 2) The Wikipedia article and the BBC note it's proximity to government
 * 3) Of course, plenty reliable sources are proximate to government, BBC, CBC, Al Jazeera, although I would suggest The New Times is not a reliable source for Rwandan politics.
 * 4) The Wikipedia WP:RSPSS noticeboard is silent on The New Times. A search of the archive reveals nothing.
 * So my question is: does anyone have any evidence, any reason to assume it's a bad source? CT55555 (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep, She has a good career as a musician being both a solo artist and the lead vocalist of a band, and being reported by The New Times is very remarkable. Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


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