Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arienne Mandi


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The result was draftify. Moved to Draft:Arienne Mandi.  bibliomaniac 1  5  01:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Arienne Mandi

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WP:BLP of an actress, not properly referenced as passing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors and actresses are not all automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist -- they need to have reliable source coverage about them to verify that they pass a notability criterion, such as having multiple (meaning more than one) major (meaning not just one-off guest shots on TV shows she wasn't a regular cast member of) roles and/or winning or getting nominated for a major acting award. But there are just three sources here (four footnotes, but one of them is a repetition of one of the others), of which two — her IMDb profile and her cast bio on the self-published production website of the show she's on — are not reliable or notability-supporting sources at all. And while the other one is a real (albeit paywalled) magazine article, it appears as far as I can tell to be a Q&A interview in which she's talking about herself in the first person — which is a type of source we can use for supplementary verification of stray facts after the person has already gotten over GNG on better ones, but not a type of source that brings a GNG pass all by itself if it's the best sourcing on offer. And even if I'm wrong and it is a real article written in the third person, a person still has to have more than just one of those to pass our notability criteria. As always, no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when she's got stronger sourcing, but just being verifiable as a working actor is not an automatic notability freebie that would exempt her from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete the sourcing does not come even close to showing a pass of our notability guidelines for actresses.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep or Draftify: The subject had a main role in the film, Baja (film), and is currently starring in The L Word: Generation Q, so I believe she passes WP:NACTOR. As for WP:GNG, she does get some non-trivial coverage, such as these articles (and I'm sure there are more):
 * →https://deadline.com/2019/06/the-l-word-generation-q-adrienne-mandi-leo-sheng-jacqueline-toboni-rosanny-zayas-showtime-1202637138/
 * →https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/arts/television/l-word-generation-q.html
 * →https://variety.com/2019/tv/reviews/the-l-word-generation-q-review-showtime-reboot-1203413599/
 * She also gets a huge number of passing mentions, which can be used to verify her roles, like this: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-capsule-baja-review-20180412-story.html. The page probably was prematurely created, but I don't think deletion is necessary, considering her rising notability. However, if the consensus is against me, I would suggest "Draftifying" the page. Dflaw4 (talk) 11:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Draftify Likely WP:TOOSOON but the sources identified by and others available in searches (e.g., Distractify, HITC) indicate that her high-profile role is likely to result in RS which would establish clear notability in the near future. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


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