Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arizona Citizens Defense League


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The result was delete. czar 15:10, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Arizona Citizens Defense League

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This organization is not notable. Notability (organizations and companies) : "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." Felsic2 (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - WP:ORG You might want to have a look at a few links. This gun lobby group has been around for a few years, and has clout within the gun rights population. 1, 2, 3, 4. You could do a Google search and find them mentioned in any number of gun rights web sites. — Maile  (talk) 16:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * They get mentioned or quoted a lot. But we needs sources that actually talk about them. Do you see any there? Felsic2 (talk) 16:52, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That looks like a directory and says it includes 40,000 politicians. It just quotes their mission statement. Felsic2 (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment I find lots of items in news reports that cover their activity, such as this one: "... as Slate's David Weigel reports, the Arizona Citizens Defense League is preparing legislation that would require the state to offer firearms training to politicians and their staff." and this from the LA Times:"As secretary of the nearly 4,000-member Arizona Citizens Defense League, a gun rights group, Heller carries at least two handguns with him at all times." There are dozens of mentions of their pro-gun lobbying activity in local Arizona press.  I haven't found any in-depth coverage of the organization. MB (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Also found this coverage of one of their activities: MB (talk) 03:36, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That link looks like a mistake. As for those mentions above, they seem cursory rather than significant. Felsic2 (talk) 15:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The link above has been fixed. Yes, the mentions above are cursory.  That's way I didn't say KEEP. MB (talk) 21:06, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Mentions in sources are clearly trivial. No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. AusLondonder (talk) 08:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:18, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as searches found nothing convincingly better. SwisterTwister   talk  05:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. I feel like we should have an article on them since the number of hits on Google News implies they have some influence as a lobby/pressure/special-interest group in Arizona state politics. However, until we can find some articles actually discussing them as an organization (e.g. when they were founded, who is behind them, a survey of their lobbying successes and failures over time, etc), as opposed to just endless quotes of their opinion on issue X (where X is most commonly some proposed bill in Arizona state legislature which they support or oppose), I don't think there is enough for an article. SJK (talk) 04:40, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


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