Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arjan Brussee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Arjan Brussee

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Almost no significant, independent and reliable sources. The only source cited is an interview with a random software engineer whose career started thanks to Brussee. Hakken (talk) 11:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * keep founder of two notable companies and programmer of a notable computer game. Shaddim (talk) 10:26, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. A quick search on the WP:VG/RS custom Google search engine brings up several results.
 * Metacritic
 * Shacknews
 * Gamasutra
 * Eurogamer
 * Destructoid
 * Kotaku soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  18:41, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge - This is a difficult one, primarily because video game developers rarely receive much media coverage. G-searches are turning up press releases, interviews, and trivial mentions mostly about the games he has participated in the development of. The book sources found do seem to indicated he is respected in his field but most are one line mentions and are not enough to establish notability. The requirement for establishing notability is the subject is to have received "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject" and "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material."


 * The sources generated by the custom Google search engine in the WikiProject Video games/Source are useful for establish content in the article but may include sources that are not independent and not usable for establishing notability. Unfortunately, the sources listed above by user:Soetermans do not meet the requirements for establishing notability.


 * Metacritic -  Per WP:QS "Content from websites whose content is largely user-generated is also generally unacceptable." Also the WikiProject Video games/Source WP:VG/RS states that Metacritic is not considered reliable.


 * Shacknews - is a reliable source but the article content is provided by the subject. This would be a primary source and per WP:IV "The general rule is that any statements made by interviewees about themselves, their activities, or anything they are connected to are primary-source and not independent material" and per WP:Basic "Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject."


 * Gamasutra - Article is a press release about subject joining EA Visceral Games. Press release are not considered independent.


 * Eurogamer - PR announcement of the formation of Boss Key Productions. Subject is mentioned as the COO.


 * Destructoid - Blogs are generally unacceptable as sources per WP:USG.


 * Being a founder of a company or a developer of a popular video game in itself is not enough to establish notability as notability is not inherited.


 * I am open to changing my !vote if someone can come up with a couple of sources that meet the requirements to establish the notability of the subject as I have not been able to locate some. As an alternative to deletion it may be appropriate to merge the subject with Boss Key Productions.  CBS 527 Talk 17:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:51, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - The need for notable/reliable sources is especially crucial here because this is a WP: BLP. As noted by CBS527, the sources we have here so far are not enough to meet notability guidelines, much less create an article which holds up to BLP standards.--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.