Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arjun (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 07:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Arjun (musician)

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Very weak sources, no significant coverage, fails the GNG though he might barely pass WP:MUSIC based on radio playlists. Seems non-notable to me. Huon (talk) 13:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

*Weak Keep, it's marginal, but this ref http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/panjabihitsquad/20080615.shtml does show he was on a BBC radio playlist, albeit not for one of their mainstream stations, so I'd give benefit of the doubt based on WP:BAND #11. Needs to be re-written though as it's sailing pretty close to the wind on copyvio and smells of astroturfing.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 14:04, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment it's worth noting that the article creator has an identical username to the subject, so almost certainly has COI.
 * Weak Delete, in light of the COI I'm going to switch to delete as it more than smells of Astroturfing now. Article might posibly be rescued as he might just be notable per WP:BAND, but he can't do it as he has COI and there's no evidence of anyone else working this article so two marignals make a delete for me. --ThePaintedOne (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi I wrote this article and am part of Arjun's PR team - not sure if this mean that COI applies? As far as notability is concerned, I am positive that Arjun has enough of a fan base to justify mention on wikipedia. He has had radioplay on national stations such as BBC Radio 1: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00twxzp http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00trlwt http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00v11j7

He has also been playlisted on other BBC stations such as Asian Network: http://www.bbc.co.uk/asiannetwork/playlist/index.shtml

Please see his various fan sites and groups on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/arjun.artist http://www.facebook.com/pages/ARJUN/127464250623646 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12672402415

It is also worth searching 'Arjun Remember Tonight' on google — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arjuncoom (talk • contribs) 15:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for commenting. In terms of WP:COI, yes being on his PR team most definitely applies. Please read the linked policy document for guidance. Wikipedia is not a forum for promotional activity, but rather a reflection of existing reliable third party sources from elsewhere. In terms of notabillity, the standard is WP:GNG and WP:BAND, and sources need to meet the standards of WP:SOURCES. Unfortunately social media sites and fan made pages generally don't fall into this category. What would be more appropriate is significant coverage in national media, or similar.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 16:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looks like he may become notable but right now there does not appear to be enough coverage in reliable sources to justify an article.--Michig (talk) 21:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

If COI is the main issue then I understand that the article should be removed. Having said this, I don't feel that the article is written using promotional language. Everything that has been stated is factual. Furthermore, there are very few notable artists of Sri Lankan origin, and the majority of the ones already existing on Wikipedia have far fewer artistic credentials than Arjun. He is one of the few artists putting Sri Lanka on the map in the UK. Arjun has produced an album which was released internationally by Sony Music India: http://desi-box.com/media/bhangra/shivali-brings-you-the-bhajan-project-.html This album also reached the Top 10 of the UK iTunes World Music Chart: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=491379963173&set=a.491379958173.265900.278384168173&theater He has performed to crowds of up to 30,000. Please see this overview of Arjun's performances, press and TV appearances in 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALqo0B1AMlM If the structure and wording of the article is incorrect then this can of course be changed. Please let me know whether the page will stand and I will make the necessary changes to the format, sources etc Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arjuncoom (talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The standard for inclusion that needs to be demonstrated is listed at this page WP:BAND, which needs to be demonstrated with sources that meet the guidelines here WP:SOURCES. COI doesn't necessarily mean the article will be deleted, but you should read the following page for guidance before making further edits yourself WP:COI.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 08:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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