Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arlo Kay Atkin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tawker (talk) 21:38, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Arlo Kay Atkin

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The subject of this article fails WP:CRIMINAL. Article is about a former bishop sentenced to four months in jail and three years of probation. The article used to contain a lot of poorly sourced negative WP:BLP content which I have removed. I see no indication of notability to meet the standards for notable criminals. Also, WP:BLP1E applies as I don't see any other events for which this person is supposedly notable for. Mz7 (talk) 22:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete The "former bishop" description that fits this man, probably applies to over 100,000. It is not clear from the article that he was either a-serving as bishop when his crime was exposed or b-serving as bishop when the crime occurred. Bishops preside over congregations of about 500 people, and serve for an average of about 5 years (at least in the current Church, in the 19th-century things were a little different). They are vaguely equivalent to Catholic priests, but serve for limited time. As far as I can tell, to justify this article, we would have to have articles on every Catholic priest who was both criminal prosecuted and had a law suit brought against the church. There is no justification for that, at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:00, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:CRIMINAL. I don't think it comes very close to meeting the standard of notability. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - if you look at the article history, this article was submitted several times to AFC and was always rejected. Then did a copy/paste move to the mainspace, and others then moved the history of the AFD's to the article history. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That's correct. There is absolutely no requirement for any AFC submission to be accepted by an AFC reviewer in order to become an article. For registered users, AFC is actually an entirely optional process. But if a user moves the AFC submission to mainspace, the mainspace article will be judged by mainspace standards, and subjects failing notability guidelines will be deleted, rather than just declined. The user who worked the most actively on the AFC submission, Psycho818, was also the user who performed the cut-and-paste move. This indicates that they no longer wish to pursue the Articles for Creation process. Since there is a concern regarding the subject's notability, I have nominated the page for deletion. Since the AFC submission was copied-and-pasted into the mainspace, the page's edit history was split up; this is an undesirable condition, as all edits to a page are required to be attributed to the user who made the edit for legal and policy reasons. It is for this reason that the page histories were merged. Mz7 (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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