Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armenia–Vietnam relations


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 23:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Armenia–Vietnam relations

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another random country pairing, no resident embassies and as article states "There are around 8 people of Armenian descent living in Vietnam. " LibStar (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The article even says "There are around 8 people of Armenian descent living in Vietnam." There have been no major events in relations between the two countries, and any small amount of information that could be found on these relations could be put into either country's article. Tim  meh  !  00:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For all the 200+ countries in the world, there is not room enough in the Foreign relations of... article of any country. --Mr Accountable (talk) 01:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * sure there is. one of our basic principles is NOT PAPER. Doesn't mean all of them are worth doing, necessarily, but if they were to be, we have room for them -- and anything else for which sources can be found as well. DGG (talk) 03:35, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Another random intersection. See also Centralized discussion/Bilateral international relations. JJL (talk) 00:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep As non-controversial. --Mr Accountable (talk) 01:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * that's hardly a reason Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. LibStar (talk) 01:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. I managed to add a sentence or two to the article (and removed one); I suspect that sources ought to be available, esp. on ties during the Soviet era and perhaps more recent ones that follow up on the 2002 meeting between the two foreign ministers. If only I spoke some of those languages--and if only more of this kind of info were available on the internet. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Question Would Armenia and Viet Nam really have had relations during the Soviet era? Moscow and Ha Noi did, and at least under the 1936 constitution a republic was allowed to conduct diplomatic relations, but would Yerevan actually have established formal relations?  Nyttend (talk) 12:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. When I added that source that made that claim (the Armenian Foreign Ministry) I tried to phrase it as diplomatically as I could, haha. Of course that source didn't go into any of these details, but even if Yerevan had no such power the appearance now is that they did. Even if that establishes nothing more than some sort of artificial independence, it goes to show that the mere subject of such relations is valuable to the Armenians. My contention is (in a lot of these articles) that the perception of or desire for a relationship matters also (if this can be documented, of course), not just whether there's ambassadors or not. How your (very valid) point is discussed in the article is a matter for people smarter than me and more knowledgable on this topic... Drmies (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Nick-D (talk) 08:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I commend Drmies' efforts, but let's be honest: the Armenian SSR had very little autonomy in foreign policy (and of course the relations were bound to be peaceful: was the ASSR going to declare war on its own?), and relations since then have been thoroughly routine, limited to a couple of visits. Overall, not notable. - Biruitorul Talk 18:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Once again, a randomly created article that does nothing to assert notability in world affairs, and is not likely to be able to. -- BlueSquadron Raven  16:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.