Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armenians and Jews


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Armenia–Israel relations. And/or History of the Jews in Armenia or other articles as appropriate, but consensus is that these two articles already encompass most of the topic of this article.  Sandstein  09:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Armenians and Jews

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I do not think that the comparison of two different nations is a topic for separate article. Some parts can be moved to the arm-israel relations article. --Δαβίδ (talk) 09:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me   What did he do now?  13:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me   What did he do now?  13:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep My initial assumption was that this would be a guaranteed delete, but the article provides a wide range of reliable and verifiable sources discussing the Armenian / Jewish experience. Some of the material seems coatrack-ish and synth-y, but there is far more cohesion here than I would have expected. I'm not sure that a list of people with mixed Armenian-Jewish heritage belongs here and details regarding the connections between the sovereign states of these two peoples probably belongs in Armenian-Israeli relations. With cleanup, better fleshing out of the core topic and added sources, this could be a much better article. Alansohn (talk) 19:59, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect (retain all good content) to (1) History of the Jews in Armenia because this article is essentially a WP:CONTENTFORK of the History of the Jews in Armenia article that ostensibly covers 2,000 years of Armenian-Jewish history to this very day. (2) Whatever relates to Armenian relations with Israel, Merge and Redirect to the Armenia–Israel relations article. IZAK (talk) 00:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:23, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete First of all, the title is wrong, it's more like Comparison/Position between/of the Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust", with an out-of-place notable people section. The whole position on the Armenian Genocide part is not suitable for that article IMO, that can be broken down an mentioned (in their appropriate sections) in the Armenian Genocide article. The history section is already a mixture of things from the two main articles. The Notables just doesn't fit anywhere really. -- C yb er XR ef talk 02:43, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a single encyclopedic topic but a typical "essay"-like discussion of the relations between two topics, falling under WP:NOTCASE. Neither of the potential redirect targets mentioned in the discussion above seems very appropriate. Merging is not called for, because the various articles to which some parts of this might potentially be merged are already better developed and cover those parts better than what's here now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge I think merging with Armenia–Israel relations is the best option. I'll try to do it in the upcoming days or so. -- Ե րևանցի talk  23:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Proposal Since Armenians and Jews have a longer history that Armenia and Israel, why not move this to "Armenian-Jewish relations", similar to Armenian–Kurdish relations? I genuinely believe that there is enough academic literature on the relations of these ethnic groups that go beyond the relations of the modern states of Armenia and Israel. -- Ե րևանցի talk  04:36, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.