Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arnold Perey (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;   &spades;  01:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Arnold Perey

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Previously nominated 2 years ago; however, I believe notability requirements for living persons have strengthened somewhat since then, and that this gentleman fails the "professor test". I may well be wrong in my belief, hence the nomination here. --kingboyk 16:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions.  -- Pete.Hurd 20:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete principal rationale: no trace of either book in LOC or Harvard Library system. Both are self-published.  Gwe, is a novel; Were They Equal? About Tortoise, Hippopotamus, Elephant is a children's book; neither then would establish notability as a researcher.  I think in general, WP is too hard on non-traditional academics, hence the "weak" delete, but it's really hard to find information on the subject that is not written by him. Neutral: closer look at Aesthetic Realism puts a stronger claim on notability; however, reliable sources for that page are slim enough that I can't justify a true "Keep"  --Myke Cuthbert 05:05, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, based more on his role in Aesthetic Realism than on academic notability. JamesMLane t c 09:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


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 * Keep. As above, because of the notable Aesthetic Realism work. There is nothing at Amazon and only trivial at Google. the getcite.org site is suspect to me. However, AR is notable and he's heavily invested in it.  Jody B   talk 00:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. It should have been userfied the first time, to any of the many identities he assumed while editing here; it's a thinly disguised user page even at present. It's self-written by Perey, who also seems to be the sole source. Fails notability. The existence of the Wikipedia article itself is used by Perey as evidence of his importance on his personal website, and vice versa. Zero reliable sources; references are only to websites controlled by Perey. - Outerlimits 03:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The user is a nice fellow, but he did write this biography himself. His role in Aesthetic Realism does not appear important. We don't have articles on more important individuals in that movement, for example: Ellen Reiss. There don't appear to be any major reviews of his anthropological work. I can't see any solid justification for keeping this and so my opinion is that it should be deleted. -Will Beback ·:·  03:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Google scholar shows 4 citations of his work . That's very very low. Combined with the concerns about the autobiography and the apparent lack of reliable third-party sources on which to build the article, I see no reason to keep the article. Pascal.Tesson 04:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, not even borderline notability. Fails WP:BIO and WP:PROF. --Zamkudi 09:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete —  Notability is not established in the article. ~ Magnus animuM BRAIN FREEZE! 21:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Infrangible 18:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral Obviously there is no notability as an academic. (I did verify hisPHD, however--it's the one thing I was able to verify about his career. Minor web presence on some lists. As for his role in the movement, I can't judge. DGG 05:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


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