Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arnulf Seminary of Theology


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. Per compelling evidence of WP:HOAX 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Arnulf Seminary of Theology

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I am confident that this article is a hoax.


 * The article has no reliable sources that support its main claims. As of Special:PermanentLink/1012257259, the article has ten citations:
 * References 1, 2, and 3 are just repetitions of the law that would govern the seminary; none make any reference to the seminary itself.
 * References 4, 6, 8, 9, and 10 go to various primary sources (its website, Facebook, a press release it put out, a database that seems unvetted)
 * References 5 and 7 are to "blastingnews.com". While it's unclear exactly what sort of editorial control this has (see this RSN thread), the particular articles read as excessively credulous of some very extrordinary claims (e.g. that Afghanistan has a large population of this one obscure progressive Christian sect).
 * I cannot find any independent evidence that the seminary exists outside of Wikipedia mirrors and closely associated websites. The infobox claims that it's physically located in Massachussets, but it doesn't show up on Google Maps, which you would expect to cover an institution in a major American city.
 * The article subject has unusual ties to the Wikipedia article. The official website of this seminary (archive) links to the Wikipedia article with a giant button on the home page.
 * The article subject has ties to other suspected hoaxes. Note that the address given on its home page (P.O. Box 70573, Fort Lauderdale, FL) is the same as that given on the homepage of International Association of Therapists & Medical Doctors (IAAT) (current AfD here)
 * The article creator, OnSpeech, also created Government of Rhodesia, which was recently deleted as a blatant hoax

I believe this qualifies for a G3 speedy deletion, but I opened an AfD in order to leave a paper trail. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. Vahurzpu (talk) 07:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete: Part of a comprehensive hoax, but a hoax all the same. The only solid address for this purportedly Massachusetts-based seminary is a Fort Lauderdale PO Box with a Broward County phone number.  Just for giggles, I tried the phone number, and got Some Dude (who sounded kinda peeved at being called at quarter to 5 AM) instead of any office.  The Boston address is purportedly "Commonwealth Avenue, Chestnut Hill," which is pretty dern vague. WP:BULLSHIT is about right.   Ravenswing      08:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

*Speedy deletion Also this article was written bei User OnSpeech who is a family member and suffering from a severe mental illness which is progressive and let’s him more and more do things he shouldn’t. Unfortunately he still can formulate rather well, but his mind is most deeply disrupted. I can’t get into more details since this is public and I am acting under my real name (with a minor change). How disturbed my xxx OnSpeech is you could observe when he wrote the most crazy content about an African country just recently. I learned about all this today and here (as already in other discussions) I can only express the most sincere apologies in the name of the entire family and the caretakers. OnSpeech even created fantasy websites for institutions et al. which we then deleted and deleted... - Since this escalated now so severely we will end his free access to the internet and delete his account as soon as somebody pls. tells me how so that I can tell the caretaker. As to the content: I know for sure that this tiny seminary exists, but I am also sure that what OnSpeech wrote about them is from dreamland, fantasy. You would do this institution a favor by deleting this nonsense of OnSpeech’s fantasies as quickly as possible. Thank you and sorry again! Klaus Bells (talk) 14:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC) (indeffed for sockpuppetry)
 * Delete. I agree with the above.  Athel cb (talk) 10:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete someone is putting a lot of time and effort into this series of elaborate hoaxes. I’m not really interested in why. Mccapra (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy This... Now per WP:Hoax, WP:Hoax, WP:Hoax, WP:Hoax, and WP:Hoax... Did I say delete per WP:Hoax, yes I did. 👨x🐱 (talk) 18:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Hoaxes like this reinforce my view that we need to make all new articles go through AfC.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.