Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aron "Deuce" Erlichman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Aron "Deuce" Erlichman
The result was   Redirect. Jayron  32  04:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
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Not enough notability is presented for a solo artist (ex. no sources for his solo effort); since most of the article's content is with Hollywood Undead, it should redirected to that page  Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 09:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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I agree, however it has now been changed. I don't know who did the article previously, but it was shocking and should have just been redirected to HU's page. However, it now specifies his solo career with only a minor section of his efforts in HU. Would notability from 10thstreet entertainment (check their website - clients - deuce) be enough to keep this page up and running? Deuce was also voted one of Eminem's favourite upcoming artists a little while back, however I can not provide a source for this... Deuce also performed alongside Blink-182, Eminem, Kiss, Rise Against and many other artists at the Epicenter festival in CA. I can provide sources for this. --BlueAsBlood (talk) 12:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Deuce is well known for his notable performance with Hollywood Undead but is soon to release a solo album is also known for suing AMO Records, the dispute between Deuce and Hollywood Undead and also (as mentioned by BlueAsBlood) for playing alongside Eminem, 30 Seconds to Mars and Kiss. I will go through and write a history (with references) later. --User:JustAnotherBlaah (talk) 6:25, 28 March 2011 (NZT)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There is not much detail about the events occurring with this artist's band. One can think these would be assumptions a of person about the band. We want to confirm that the artist has received significant coverage from reliable sources, like other news outlets, to keep an article for the him. So far, nothing is sourced but with only one piece of information (all the biographical info are not sourced anywhere) and the only notability that is presented is that he was in the band Hollywood Undead. It would be best to redirect this article to the band's article. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 05:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment to closing admin Please note there was a cut and paste move of this article from Aron "Deuce" Erlichman to Aron Erlichman, and therefore if anything is kept the histories will need to be merged. Edgepedia (talk) 12:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just applied the deletion template to the second article. Edgepedia (talk) 12:26, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The histories have been merged to avoid any confusion, regardless of how this discussion is closed. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I wasn't really sure how to merge the history of a page and integrate into the new one. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 05:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Notable sources/references
I've tried my best to find as many references to everything said that I could. I have removed a lot of biased information (regarding the HU - Deuce fued) and have tried my best to include as much information as possible about the artist. Is there ANYTHING I can do to help keep this page up? Do tweets from Deuce himself count as relliable sources, if mentioned that "Deuce stated on (date) that 'blah blah blah' suggesting..."[1] something like that? --BlueAsBlood (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Tweets can be considered as a primary source but one cannot be too dependent on a Twitter page. Anyone can make things up and claim anything to be true through their Twitter. I highly suggest to accompany a reliable source with the tweet; It would be best to have the source able verify the specific Tweet. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

So far, the article has had very little improvement. The sources uses Wikipedia links (which does not really help the article at all), one dead link that leads to a forum posting, and the rest are just YouTube videos (an interview one is good, but the other one is not helpful). So far, I still nominate its redirection to Hollywood Undead because the notability of the artist as a solo artist has yet to be established. His notable work was with Hollywood Undead, even he became a former member of the band. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 04:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Notable sources/references
Not sure if I'm doing this correctly, new to this type of deal, but my name is Brent and I'm the News Director for a North Georgia Radio station, and co-host of "Jacked Up Radio" on 93.1 JACK-FM. It was brought to my attention by a number of fans of Aron's that this page is being considered for deletion and needs more credible(?)content and sources. I wanted to inform you we are actually conducting a new interview (we have done previous ones in the past) with him about his new signing with 10st street, upcoming album, and live appearances. The interview will tentatively be released online no later than Sunday uncut, before being aired on Saturday April 16th. We feel this is an important artist to spotlight and also concur he has earned a place on wikipedia. The link to the interview will be provided and linked here sometime on Sunday, April 10th. Thank you for your consideration, and apologies if this comment was not submitted appropriately. Also, if there is any need for verification of my credentials that can be provided. Thanks. RE-EDIT: Final note- as for contents of this article, especially concerning details of the Hollywood Undead departure, past conversations and our previously done interviews have Deuce confirming the majority of what is contained in this disputed article. Jackedupradio (talk) 23:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackedupradio (talk • contribs) 22:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 01:18, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The press from the controversy with him leaving the band plus an upcoming album with another act is enough for me. At the cusp of demonstrating multiple bands and I think some time should be allotted (perhaps 6 months) to see if what happens. The controversy from leaving the band is beyond what should be included in the Hollywood Undead article.  Royal broil  00:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect to Hollywood Undead The sources in the article are all unreliable. 1 is a commercial site that does not mention Erlichman. 2, 7, and 8 are user uploads to YouTube. 3 is a dead link, and by its url appears to be a forum. 4 is Wikipedia. 5 is from a college newspaper that does not mention Erlichman. 6 is from a file-hosting site, MediaFire. 9 is a local radio publication. 10 and 11 are from the tabloid newspaper New York Post, which cannot be used to establish notability. Because there are no reliable sources with significant coverage of Erlichman and because notability is not established, I propose that this article be redirected to Hollywood Undead, Erichman's band. Goodvac (talk) 06:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We still do not see any improvement by changing the sources the editors have used. I still highly suggest that the article be redirected to Hollywood Undead. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 08:15, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete/redirect to Hollywood Undead. The fact that a user's best attempts at sourcing this article have only led to its reliance on unreliable sources shows that he isn't ready for an article at this point. BLPs should not be poorly cited likely this. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  02:55, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.