Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Around the World Submerged


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The result was   G7 Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Around the World Submerged

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Doesn't seem to be a notable book. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Marcd30319 (talk) 21:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Per lack of third-party sources; I also couldn't find any significant coverage in a google news or google book source. I came across this article at DYK and I am the one who tagged it with and ; I think the only thing that would convince me of its notability would be to see it cited by other works and see them claiming that it is as groundbreaking as this article claims it to be. From what I can tell, even if it was the first book to report some things (as this article says), I can't tell if they're really notable. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 20:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not sure on this one. While Rjanag's argument is persuasive, it is from 1962 and was (presumably) not a best-seller. It's hard to find stuff on books from that long ago; heck, (for example), it's hard enough to find stuff on the novel that is credited with the revitalization of the fantasy genre, The Sword of Shannara. What I mean by all that is the no significant coverage in Google News or Books doesn't worry me, because I would have expected nothing from News. Books is a little worrisome, but modern books (what GB has a lot of) would probably cite modern research, not a 46-year old book. (did all that make sense?) Perhaps someone knows an old navy guy who would have seen coverage back in '62? — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  21:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Allow me the opportunity to expand on this article. If need be, tag it as a stub.  The book did have at least a second printing, and it was published as a paperback by Dell.  Also, I recall reading that it was on the New York Times best-seller list, just as Captain Beach's first noovel, Run Silent, Run Deep.  Finally, if anyone was going to look into the Triton circumnavigation, this book would be the principal source for this voyage.
 * That doesn't address any of the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (books). Being published more than once doesn't make a book notable, and even being on the bestseller list doesn't necessarily do so (assuming you get a source for that). The only criterion here that this article has even an outside shot at is #5, and I don't believe that is met either; while Beach is notable, he doesn't appear to be that much of a giant in his field. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 21:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Edward L. Beach, Jr. for the moment, surely. I accept that this is not a notable book, but it is a plausible search term.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  22:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.