Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aroura

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete and redirect to Aurora. Sjakkalle (Check!)  11:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Aroura
Delete: Content essentially copied from khet and itrw, and same reasons for deleting as the previous score of articles on VfD from User:rktect (no need to repeat them here). -- Egil 07:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC) (talk) 08:40, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep The study of why and how the Greeks came to derive the Greek Orders of architecture from the proto Doric colonade of Hatshepsets chapel may be lost on Egil but it doesn't require a deletion to make it a good articleRktect 19:29, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Anyone got an idea for a name which could encompass all ancient stuff derived from this hundred cubits thing? Someone, please leave User:Rktect a friendly message, telling him that spreading stuff over seperate articles and duplicating, isn't a good idea. - Mgm|
 * Answer: The proper place for bona fide material on this matter would be under the Ancient weights and measures umbrella, in this case Ancient Greek weights and measures. And don't worry, the user in question begun (and continues) his Blitzkrieg in those articles, so he certainly knows about them. My impression is that the 34 articles he has created is either an attempt to be left alone, or an attempt to exhaust his opponents. -- Egil 09:36, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

You appear to be obsessed with trying to tell me what to write about. These pages aren't just talking about measures. In the case of the page on the Aroura we are talking about the differenc e between public and private architecture, the power of landholding, feudalism, Land Tenure in the time of the Ramesides, things about which you are clueless on every level. Why not go make your own contribution and leave mine alone? Rktect 02:08, August 27, 2005 (UTC)


 * Try reading some of these articles from the perspective that what I'm collecting is the set of things which influenced the development of architectureRktect 19:29, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Gene Nygaard 13:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC) * Delete per same reasons as the other entries. Repeating material (under new title with the arguemnt the same material is related to the new title). -- &lt; drini | &part;drini &gt; 15:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy redirect to Aurora. Speedy because of criteria G4 in WP:CSD, and useful redirect for the common mispelling. -- (drini|&#x2615;) 01:39, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete under Criteria for Speedy Deletion G4. Ken talk 03:33, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I agree that this criterion is fullfilled, and if there is consensus, I believe it should also be applied to the following articles by the same author - they all seem to have been created for the same purpose, showing that the Egyptians et al around 3000 BC knew exactly how large the Earth was, and lets adjust facts and history to accomodate that:


 * It is probably not a good idea to delete articles because of speculation and opinion which is often wrong. Rktect 10:28, August 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * It really isn't about the fact that ancient civilizations from Mesopotamia and Egypt to Greece and Rome knew the size of the earth or for that matter that it wasn't flat. Its about the fact that they shared what they knew. That applies to boatbuilding, the construction of an arch, ideas about natural philosophy, the uses of unit fractions, agriculture, written laws and the form of contracts, architecture, canons of proportion, and how to make beer.Rktect 01:03, August 27, 2005 (UTC)


 * Mille PassusThe relation of the Roman Mile and stadia to geography and navigation results in there being Roman milestones all the way down the mountains along the east coast of the Erythrian sea from Abha to Khamis Mushat.
 * Mille passusComments by Herodotus, Aristotle Marinus, Ptolomy, Posidenus, Eratosthenes
 * MilliareThe Roman Mile and where it came from
 * Pous A discussion of the Greek orders of Architecture
 * Eratosthenes stadia Examination of which stadia Eratosthenes was using
 * Sos A discussion of the origion of standards of measure as definitions of property

and how the control of the water to irrigate the fields led to control of the land
 * Myle A discussion of Arnolds Customs references to a pre statute Myle of 8 furlongs
 * Milion Did the Greeks have a Mile? How was it defined
 * Khet A discussion of Measures used to find a formula for PI in the Rhind papyrus
 * Pes A discussion of how the Romans architecture came from the Greeks while their measures came from Egypt
 * Rope stretchers Ways in which surveyors were able to restablish boundaries after the innundation
 * Passus Vitruvious on Roman architecture
 * Some are already on Vfd, but not all. For a list of all past and present VfDs by this author, go here. -- Egil 10:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC


 * Egil has the belief that any discussion of measurements is pseudoscience, original research, pyramidiocy and weird. As an architect I work with measures every day and have a different perspective in that I find them interesting and sometimes pleasing when well proportioned so I study them. It would be nice if people would read the pages make comments on the discussion pages and work with me instead of against me. Rktect 19:29, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

a dozen or so
 * Redirect &rarr; Aurora and give template (R from misspelling). --Mysidia (talk) 02:22, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Misspelling? An Aroura is what the Greeks called the Egyptian 3kr or acre with side of 1 khet known as a st3t. An Aurora is an electromagnetic effect of photons passing through an electric field near the earths poles.Rktect 17:29, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * As I go through and look at the pages I'm working on I rarely find one that hasn't been tagged, then reverted and had images, content and references removed to give the impression that all are all about measures only, when they are definitely not. That sort of thing is just plain slimy and should not be encouraged by people voting for deletion without checking out the history. Egil claims I have created 34 articles since August 5. If thats true and all that remain are a dozen or so then it might be interesting to see what his contributions have been recently.Rktect 03:00, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: In the above, User:Rktect has sprinkled his edits all over the place, so it is now not easy to see who said what. I see that my last comment is now misrepresented. (Please don't ask me to clean it up, I really have spent far too much of my Wiki time cleaning up after this user). -- Egil 11:40, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


 * You have spent too much time attempting to destroy things you don't understand. I wouldn't object so much if you attempted to understand, asked questions and got answers, but your asumptions, speculations and opinions are so consistently wrong its getting ridiculous.Rktect 17:29, August 27, 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect to Ancient weights and measures. --Carnildo 03:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.