Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arpita Mukherjee (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 04:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Arpita Mukherjee
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Fails WP:BASIC. Tried to remove some promo material (spotify, itunes, soundcloud, shazam) before nominating here. Decided the sources don't establish notability. Sources other than those mentioned in my source assess table aren't worth discussing, imv. - hako9 (talk) 21:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

- hako9 (talk) 21:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep as passes two criteria of WP:NMUSIC criteria 9 with winning a notable television singing competition series and criteria 10 has had her songs featured on numerous nationally broadcast television series. As for the table, where does it say that the IAN news agency is not independent; from WP:SYNDICATED "Syndicated news pieces may be independent of the subject matter". Also if a reliable source with a reputation for fact checking uses that source and adds to it why should it not be reliable? imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding The Hans India, where is it determined as unreliable as there is nothing about it in the Reliable sources noticeboard archives and perennial sources list, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:18, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Winning a notable/non-notable (Sa Re Ga Ma Pa: Golden Voice Hunt is actually not at all notable) singing competition doesn't mean it passes NMUSIC sir. You need to win major music competition (emphasis "major"). If you have doubts about the word major you need to read the line above the guideline. The word major is used before an award such as Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis. That implies a major competition can never be a competition like Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Voice Hunt. Also, Sa Re Ga Ma Pa is notable as a tv reality show. Not as a music competition or an award. Most importantly, GNG trumps any SNG. NMUSIC says conversely, meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. I never said IANS cannot be independent. You haven't even read the two articles. Please see WP:SYNDICATED. Both of them need to be counted as one source only. You also did not note that they fail GNG because aren't sigcov. Those articles just have 1 para when you exclude direct quotations. The Hans is unreliable according to me. You can disagree, that's fine. I think you need to reassess your flawed !vote. - hako9 (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Your attitude is disappointing. The Hans India needs to be determined by more than one editor, a paragraph can be significant coverage if it contains usable facts, and she has contributed a theme song to a notable television series as well as songs to other notable series so passes criteria 10 of WP:NMUSIC and winning a television reality singing competition is significant. According to Wikipedia Sa Re Ga Ma Pa is "the oldest running singing reality show in India" running since 1995, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:49, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sa Re Ga Ma Pa is a reality tv show. It has a dozen spinoffs like Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Ek Main Aur Ek Tu, Sa Re Ga Ma Pa L'il Champs. Winning these reality tv shows is like winning a plush toy in a circus game. It is not a "major award or a major competition" as per NMUSIC. In any case if that's her claim to fame, it qualifies for WP:BLP1E. I'll mention again, GNG trumps any SNG. I did my WP:BEFORE prior to nominating. Bottomline is there aren't sources to establish significant coverage. - hako9 (talk) 23:22, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Tenuous arguments. There is no claim to fame here. Almost completely non-notable. The competition aren't that special now. There is so many of them. Fails WP:SIGCOV as well. Where is the social media?? There is nothing there.   scope_creep Talk  10:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:SINGER. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 17:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: "Sa Re Ga Ma Pa" cannot be called a "major music competition" (distinguish from being a notable TV show). Though I would disagree with Hako9's classification of Hans India as unrelaible. For the purposes of WP:SINGER ("online versions of print media"), it would qualify as reliable source. However, given the trivial mention, its overall contribution to GNG is nil. Even if we consider SYNICATED sources as one GNG source, the article would not cut notability guidelines. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


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