Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Array Networks


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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 00:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Array Networks

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Advertisement masquerading as article. A news search found lots of PR and blog coverage, but not a lot of reliable third-party sources that would sufficiently satisfy WP:SIGCOV. Even if it were notable, it needs to be blown up to start over by someone without a COI as the entire article is unsalvageably promotional. &mdash; kikichugirl  oh hello! 17:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable and very promotional. Eeekster (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - created to article space by COI editor, junked up now and then by other representatives of the company. As nominator says, even if they merit an article, you can't get there from here. Pinkbeast (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Update The new/promotional updates have been removed. Please review this new information and reconsider the deletion. The text that is up now has been live on Wikipedia for many years. rachelamarshall (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


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 * Keep,, , , , sources found. Valoem   talk   contrib  04:27, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no really independent source: of those just listed, #1 is a mention; #2 is an  advertorial--read the last paragraph; #3 is another mention; #4 is essentially a press release.  DGG ( talk ) 05:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete No independent sources, fails WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:51, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "An old Wall Street joke posits that the New York Stock Exchange is saving the tickers “I” and “M”–two of the seven unused single-letter slugs–just in case Intel and Microsoft want to jump ship from the NASDAQ. Judging by the experience of Array Networks, one of the few technology companies to go public recently, the NYSE might be holding them for a long time: Today’s market defectors could be heading to China, or at least as close to the country as possible. Array Networks is a Silicon Valley hardware company that sells devices that encrypt network traffic. When Chief Executive Michael Zhao thought the security vendor was ready for an initial public offering, his research didn’t point to New York, but to Taipei. Last Wednesday, the company became the first U.S. company to debut on the Taiwan Stock Exchange. “We did our research and the three finalists were Taiwan, mainland China and NASDAQ,” Zhao says. The IPO was modest in size, according to the Gre Tai Securities Market, which provides information about the Taiwan exchange. Milpitas, Calif.-based Array issued about 54 million shares valued at around $79 million. On its first day of trading, the stock opened at NT$15, about 46 cents, and closed at NT$40, or $1.22. Array is now trading at NT$39, or $1.19 a share, with a volume of 16,000 shares traded. Array has 200 employees in China, and, according to consulting firm Frost & Sullivan, the company had 43% market share there in 2007 for its principal product category, SSL VPN devices. That would make mainland China “a natural choice” for an IPO, says Zhao. “However, China does not allow foreign companies to be listed.”"  The article notes: "Finally, the Great Silicon Valley IPO Drought is coming to an end — sort of. This week, more than a year after the last valley tech company made an initial public offering, a venture-capital-backed firm called Array Networks in Milpitas is going public — yet it's not exactly the talk of the town. That's because Array, a maker of enterprise networking software, is offshoring its IPO. Today, it will become the first foreign-based startup to debut on the Taiwan Emerging Stock Market, said Array CEO Michael Zhao. Array's move is an example of the creative approaches companies are pondering to cope with the globally frigid economic conditions. ... Array, founded in 2000, is backed by U.S. Venture Partners and H&Q Asia Pacific, a private equity firm founded in 1985 as a joint venture with the now defunct boutique investment bank Hambrecht & Quist. Robert Shen, H&QAP's managing director, is Array's chairman. Another board member is William P. Fuller, president emeritus of the Asia Foundation and a board member of the Bank of the Orient in San Francisco and Orient First in Hong Kong. Array's success in landing 'marquee customers' in the U.S. — including Oracle, Morgan Stanley and Humana Health Insurance— helped it make early inroads in Japan, Zhao said. In 2004, Array opened a Beijing operation to focus on the explosive Chinese economy. Array now has 200 employees in Beijing, compared with 70 in Silicon Valley." Berndtson, Chad. (2011-03-24). "Array Networks Looks To Build U.S. Presence Behind New Channel Program" (pages 1 and 2). CRN Magazine. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2015-04-30. Retrieved 2015-04-30. The article notes: "Array Networks this week launched a new partner program, in hopes of not only increasing channel revenue behind its application delivery, acceleration, access and SSL VPN products, but also dramatically upping its stake in the U.S. and Canada, where its presence has been limited. Founded in 2000 and with headquarters in Milpitas, Calif., the majority of Array's sales come from Asia. The company is particularly strong in China, Japan and India, and had a $79 million initial public offering (IPO) on Taiwan's GreTai Securities Market in 2009."  The article notes: "Now Massaro's taken the helm of a new vessel, Campbell start-up ClickArray Networks, which helps clients manage their Web traffic. On Monday, the firm named Massaro chief executive officer and shortened its name to Array Networks. The old name sounded too dot-commy, says Massaro, who worked for Al Shugart at IBM and Memorex before helping found Shugart Associates in 1973. A year later, the firm's board ousted Shugart and named Massaro president."  The article notes: "Array Networks has a new partner program to support and attract new partners With a new channel program in place, application delivery networking vendor Array Networks is seeking partners in Canada to help deliver its solutions to enterprise customers."</li> <li> The article notes: "Installing a variety of different devices is not only costly but can be a fairly complicated process. To solve this, Silicon Communications Sdn Bhd had introduced Array Networks, an all-in-one Web traffic management appliance. Array Networks offers seven essential networking features - server load balancing, clustering, Webwall (firewall), caching, content rewrite, secure sockets layer (SSL) acceleration and global load balancing, available in a single appliance."</li> <li> The article notes: "Array Networks, a Milpitas, Calif. provider of SSL VPN and server load balancing solutions, has raised $6.95 million in a third round of funding, according to a regulatory filing cited by PEHub. Investors included H&Q Asia Pacific and Vision Venture Capital."</li> <li> The article notes: Array Networks' APV9650 appliance can support over 20 million concurrent connections, and is designed for cloud systems and high-demand data centers. Array Networks announced a 60G bps application-delivery controller that will be capable of meeting increased bandwidth demand in the data center. The APV9650 ADC (application delivery controller) appliance has more Layers 4 and 7 throughput and an unbeatable price-performance, compared with that of competitors, Array Networks said Feb. 8. Designed for both private- and public-cloud computing environments, the company's flagship appliance is designed to be both scalable and powerful, Neville Nandkeshwar, director of product marketing at Array Networks, told eWEEK. </li> <li> The article notes: "The networking startup is beefing up the performance of its caching abilities and adding new security features in its latest release of its network device. Array Networks Inc., a networking startup combining multiple IP services into a single network device, is beefing up the performance of its caching abilities and adding new security features in its latest release. Array, of Campbell, Calif., on Monday is announcing Version 3.1 of its operating system for its Array Web Traffic Manager platforms. Available next week, the new version includes Arrays SpeedCache technology for its caching services that company officials say will increase cache utilization by as much as 50 percent and reduce loads on back-end servers. It also incorporates greater SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) features, what Array is calling 'SSL on the inside,' by adding encryption on traffic flowing from the Array device to the origin server and not just to outside connections, said Steve Shah, director of product management for Array. Array first launched its devices in September of 2001. ..."</li> <li> The article notes: "Array launches the SPX800 Universal Access Controller (UAC), a remote access solution aimed at cost-conscious businesses. Secure application delivery specialist Array Networks Inc., announced the launch of the Array SPX800 Universal Access Controller (UAC), a remote access solution aimed at small to medium-size businesses (SMBs). Array said with the SPX800 appliance, SMBs and their employees, road warrior and office worker alike, can benefit from a range of SSL VPN and remote desktop access functionality without making sacrifices in time, effort, budget, or security. The SPX800 appliance enables any user to securely connect to internal resources from remote locations, in a user-friendly appliance. For road warriors, the SPX 800 delivers SSL VPN access to the network and all applications from any PC from any location. For users that typically work in an office, the SPX800 provides remote access to the worker's desktop with complete access to his applications. Array claims this enables SMBs to have a single solution for remote access and helps reduce the number of laptop computers businesses need to purchase."</li> <li> The article notes: "Array Networks Inc. will make available next quarter a network appliance for surveillance of Web traffic. Array Networks Inc. will make available next quarter a network appliance for surveillance of Web traffic. The Array Security Reconnaissance Secure Web Traffic Analyzer can scan, analyze and record incoming and outgoing Web traffic, including SSL-encrypted sessions, officials said. Array, of Campbell, Calif., is targeting the new device at large enterprises that want to prevent the sharing of confidential information or network abuse, as well as government agencies that need to bolster homeland security while meeting the terms of electronic surveillance laws. The stand-alone network device selectively captures and analyzes network traffic by monitoring thousands of traffic flows and recording them based on set triggers. For example, an enterprise could set a specific SMTP e-mail user as a trigger and watch the SMTP traffic in e-mail messages being transmitted by that user."</li> <li> The article notes: "With EntryProtect, Array's solution can now prevent key logging and screen capture on remote devices. Array Networks, a specialist in application, desktop and cloud service delivery, announced a partnership with SentryBay to provide SentryBay's EntryProtect anti-spyware capability for Array's DesktopDirect appliance-based remote desktop access solution. DesktopDirect enables secure access to office PCs or virtual desktops from any device and allows employees to work from any location. With EntryProtect, Array's solution can now prevent key logging and screen capture on remote devices for greater security. EntryProtect is a multi-layer approach to spyware that is designed to provide end-to-end protection for all users. With EntryProtect running on DesktopDirect, anti-spyware is controlled and maintained by corporate IT in the network and not on end user devices, making sensitive data such as user names and passwords safe from unauthorized capture when entered into Web applications."</li> <li> The article notes: "Array Networks aims to enable remote desktop access to corporate computers through its DesktopDirect software and appliance. The company has released DesktopDirect for Android, a free client app that allows Android tablets or smartphones to access Windows applications and data on physical or virtualized desktops through its Array SPX hardware. Pricing starts at $3,995 for a DesktopDirect bundle with 25 concurrent users; the advanced client license, which includes iPhone, iPad, and Android client support, starts at $495."</li> <li> The article notes: "Taiwan's two stock exchanges hosted a seminar for executives that also included a talk from Array Networks, which in May became the first foreign company to list in Taiwan."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Array Networks to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 23:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Many of these sources are available through the Google News link at the top of the AfD. Cunard (talk) 23:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * #1 is an advertorial. Forbes is not immune to PR agents placing articles. #2 is essentially identical; #3 is another try of theirs, with more blatant advertising content--see 3rd para. for the source; #4 a more trivial effort. #5 a longer one. #6 sounds like a straight ad, but I cannot see it in full; #7 is a  straight press release; #8 and following are from eWeek.  Essentially all eWeek content has always been press releases; similarly for about 3/4 of InformationWeek.  I used those two publications a good deal when what I wanted was to see relevant press releases--they do it very well. & in the pre-web days were particularly important for it.   DGG ( talk ) 00:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Your attempt to discount sources from reliable publications like Forbes and San Jose Mercury News as being advertisements is very feeble. They are not advertisements. Provide proof, not assertions that they are advertisements. Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Regarding the third paragraph of #3, the source says: "But according to its top channel and marketing executives, the time has come for a much greater market presence in the U.S. against the many ADC and SSL VPN incumbents, from F5 Networks to Cisco and a host of smaller alternatives." I believe "top channel and marketing executives" refers to "the company's highest-ranking channel and marketing executives". How is this advertising? This is a journalist reporting on the executives' statements to him. This is very standard in journalism and news articles and in no way means this is a press release. eWeek and InformationWeek are both technology magazines. They are reliable publications that do not pass press releases off as news articles. Cunard (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment, DGG, Pinkbeast, Joseph2302, Eeekster, I think this source, Forbes, allows the company to passes WP:NCORP and gives the subject significant coverage, and was at one point publicly traded on the Taiwan Stock Exchange, per WP:LISTED should be inherently notable, if I am correct, I maybe wrong perhaps the exchange is not large enough, I believe it is international though. Valoem   talk   contrib  03:57, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I consider that exchange no more significant than NASDAQ.  DGG ( talk ) 04:11, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Notability (organizations and companies) (WP:LISTED) says (my bolding): "There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports. Accordingly, article authors should make sure to seek out such coverage and add references to such articles to properly establish notability. Editors coming across an article on such a company without such references are encouraged to search (or request that others search) prior to nominating for deletion, given the very high (but not certain) likelihood that a publicly traded company is actually notable according to the primary criterion." This "publicly traded company is actually notable according to the primary criterion" per the numerous sources I posted above. Cunard (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ultimately it's up to the reviewing admin - has dug up an impressive array, but much of it does read like recycled press releases. I wouldn't regard either Keep or Delete as an unreasonable outcome now. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You are repeating DGG's unsupported claim that the sources are press releases. In no way can the articles from Forbes, San Jose Mercury News, and CRN Magazine be considered press releases. The Forbes article is from a financial magazine reporting about a Silicon Valley hardware company's IPO. The San Jose Mercury News article is by a regional newspaper's columnist that discusses the company's upcoming IPO. The CRN Magazine article is from a technology magazine profiling the company. All three articles are written neutrally and from reliable publications. Cunard (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached. Relisting comment: To examine possible sources in full Black Kite (talk) 11:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 11:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - The references are press releases, either directly or quasi-articles, and do not qualify as reliable sources.  Nothing suggests notability.--Rpclod (talk) 05:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, article makes no claim of notability in spite of its length. Abductive  (reasoning) 23:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I am afraid this is incorrect. The guidelines of WP:LISTED apply here. In terms of market listings the Taiwan Stock Exchange is the 19th largest international secondary exchange in the world and is regulated similar to the NYSE and NASDAQ. These are major secondary markets with transactions in the billions daily. That's irrelevant to why listed companies are inherently notable. The regulation required to be listed on these markets means the company is under controlled scrutiny. Balance sheet, reports, earning are all monitors with high regulation and guidelines. Their counterpart is the OTC markets consisting of (Grey markets and Pink Sheets) where regulation is laxer and less monitoring overall. This is where penny stocks trade small companies. These companies are not inherently notable because listed only includes companies in the primary and secondary markets where regulation is strict. This is how the American market operates. The Taiwan market is similar, the major exchange there is Taiwan Stock Exchange (TSE), their penny stock equivalent is the Gre Tai Securities Market. Array Networks is listed on the TSE thus inherently notable. Valoem   talk   contrib  03:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: The TSE is not the equivalent of the NYSE and even if it was, "notability is not automatic". Notability must still be shown and, from my perspective, it is not.--Rpclod (talk) 03:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe regulation is what gives the company notability not size. It subject to interpretation though. Valoem   talk   contrib  03:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: "...addresses problems related to securely delivering enterprise applications to end users..." Spam.  <b style="font-family:georgia; font-size:11pt; color:#BFA3A3"> Pax</b> 02:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
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