Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arriva Bus & Coach


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The result was merge to Arriva. Daniel (talk) 14:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Arriva Bus & Coach

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Appear to be a non-notable company with no significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Current sources are just announcements and I can't find anything better. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 05:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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*Delete: Article does not have SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from IS RS. Fails GNG and NCORP.  // Timothy :: t | c | a  06:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep It's easy to find more sources such as Bus Dealers and Breakers of Yorkshire. Our policy WP:ATD applies, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 13:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep without prejudice to merge if there is a suitable target. Independent coverage such as indicates that this is an organisation with a significant history. Articles like  don't get written about non-notable organisations. Given the business area the organisation operates in, it's not surprising that a shallow google search gives a superficial appearance of non-notability (the general public isn't generally in the habit of buying a bus in the same manner they buy a car for example) but when you actually look deeper the significance is more apparent. Thryduulf (talk) 13:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, suggestion that article lacks independent reliable sources is flawed, all (this point in time are independent, secondary sources. Lilporchy (talk) 05:42, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Question:, which sources do you believe have SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyBlue (talk • contribs) 06:50, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge Merge into parent Arriva, as part of the companies history, not enough notability to have its own page.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per above, I concur there is not enough to warrant a stand-alone article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  09:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge (switched): merge sourced material per above. This will preserved the sourced material and improve the target article.  // Timothy :: talk  10:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Arriva per all the above. SK2242 (talk) 22:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Significant company, which easily meets GNG. It is an issue with our coverage of companies that we unnecessarily merge articles on significant and notable companies.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC).


 * Please cite at least 3 SIGCOV reliable independent sources to prove it meets GNG. SK2242 (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 1, 2 and 3. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  21:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't see the first reference (but looks promising). The second reference is entirely based on a company announcement and a follow-up with quotations from the company - zero Independent Content and therefore fails WP:ORGIND. The third reference is about a smaller company that was purchased by a bigger company which then gained dealerships and *eventually* changed their name to Arriva 15 years later so my opinion is that reference doesn't establish the notability of this topic company.  HighKing++ 22:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting to get better consensus. Expertwikiguy (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Merge into parent Arriva, topic fails NCORP on its own.  HighKing</b>++ 15:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep A search for sources is more fruitful when considering former names such as Stanley Hughes Coaches. No particular objection to merge as the article is short and stubbish at the mo. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Expertwikiguy (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge As per Timothy. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 10:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively as suggested above. Bearian (talk) 19:08, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


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