Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Art of the United States


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The result was withdrawn. Savonneux (talk) 11:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Art of the United States

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This seems to be a duplicate of this much more extensive article: Visual_art_of_the_United_States. The lead specifically says "The art of the United States includes all forms of visual art in or associated with the United States of America" so it's essentially a dupe. It is not a list, or at least it isn't linked like a list or in list format but even if it is intended to be it fails WP:LSC. Most of the links just consist of links to other poorly formatted WP:SAL that the author has recently created. These all bypass the main FA articles and navboxes on the subject for a bit of a circular referencing rodeo that don't add content, which I think if the average person got trapped in might not even be able to find the FA articles.

It looks like it was a redirect for a long time then someone started adding content duplicative to where it was redirected.Savonneux (talk) 01:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Addendum: The author for unknown reasons copy pasted this to another title after it was nominated to AfD, that title was CSD A:10 deleted. There already exist SALs for this topic. If the editor was more clear about their intentions this wouldn't be so hard. --Savonneux (talk) 08:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 23.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 01:53, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Almost every country has a page for their own forms of arts, some examples:


 * French art
 * Australian art
 * Swedish art
 * Soviet art
 * Category:Art_by_nationality

People almost doesn't know about american artist prior 1900's, or even after 1900's, this article prettend to be a link between all forms of art expression in United States. I do not see any reason for it's deletion.--Leglish (talk) 03:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Pd. Visual american art is not the same that American art... There also exists music, theather, video, etc, etc.--Leglish (talk) 03:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The introduction to this article reads "The art of the United States includes all forms of visual art in or associated with the United States of America" and then goes on to list a bunch of painters and photographers. I might point out that:
 * American literature has a page.
 * Music_of_the_United_States has a page.
 * Cinema_of_the_United_States has a page.
 * You are slowly redirecting all the pages in the Category:American_art to a bunch of WP:SAL you recently created and it's creating multiple duplicate articles and circular references that which avoid the meatier articles that already exist. I'd suggest gaining consensus before massively spinning out a bunch of lists and replacing redirects that have existed for 10 years--Savonneux (talk) 03:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The DAB page American_art (disambiguation) is a better place to start if you want to link all the American Art articles.--Savonneux (talk) 04:17, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep This seems to be a content dispute about a topic that is evidently notable. AFD is not clean up. Andrew D. (talk) 09:02, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, I don't care about content. It doesn't meet WP:SAL, particularly the parts about being too broad and the selection criteria WP:LSC. I struck out some of my own personal viewpoints on the topic in the nom. I saw this on recent changes and thought it was weird.--Savonneux (talk) 11:31, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Nomination Withdrawn--Savonneux (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


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