Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arte Libertino Magazine


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The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 21:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Arte Libertino Magazine

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Possible hoax, definitely a copyvio. Majority of the text is lifted verbatim from Monocle (2007 magazine), with only the names changed. Other parts are lifted from Acne Paper, again with the names changed. As this article is completely unreferenced, checking the references in the original articles shows that the claims are indeed true for Monacle and Acne, but not for Arte Libertino. For example, this quote which I removed from the article (Susannah Frankel of The Independent writes "There is an organic and authentic quality to Arte Libertino, a sense of it extending above and beyond an obviously commercially viable concern, which is genuinely inspiring.") was actually about Acne Paper, not Arte Libertino - here's the original article with the real quote. Should have been speedy deleted, IMHO. MikeWazowski (talk) 16:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I see no reason to have this article existing, as for the statements above. Jab843 (talk) 17:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment: As the admin who declined the speedy delete request, I feel I should point out that I declined it under the "hoax" criteria because it didn't read like a blatant hoax when I read over it. Indeed, Arte Libertino does indeed appear to be a real magazine.  How notable is it?  I won't go into that.  Is the article very poorly written?  Yes, it is -- the copyvio from other articles (which I'll admit, I missed) should be enough to attest to that.  But the magazine itself does appear to be real, which means the entire article isn't a hoax, and the copyvios can be fixed, if someone wants to spend the time to do it.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  00:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. I believe this qualifies as a blatant hoax even though a Web site (not a physical magazine; I can find no evidence that there is any such magazine) by the name of Arte Libertino exists. Of the three images currently in the article, the first obviously depicts faked mockups, the second either may be of the same nature or may be an image of an unrelated magazine (the words visible on the left-hand page are French, not Spanish), and the third is a spread from an issue of Conservator magazine—see pages 3 & 4 of this PDF. The ISSN given in the infobox appears to be fake, and nothing else of substance in the article appears to be correct, as the nominator has stated. I'm off to Commons to nominate the Conservator copyvio for deletion. Deor (talk) 00:36, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No notability, no references. I don't think it is a hoax but rather badly created by copying another article.  Vrenator     talk   09:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not sure if this is a copyvio or a hoax, but it's non-notable either way. --Madison-chan (talk) 21:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Madison-chan


 * Delete. Regarding the real Arte Libertino online magazine, this is the only coverage that I could find. The magazine does seem to be gradually picking up notoriety, so the usual caveats apply — Frankie (talk) 19:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - no references. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:27, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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