Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artemis Fowl II


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The result was keep. Killiondude (talk) 07:19, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Artemis Fowl II

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No out-of-universe notability. Sources are the books themselves, no secondary sourcing in sight. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment Not having much of an idea about how articles on fictional characters are usually handled, I quickly found at least two published studies that focus on this one (as well as two theses  which might not count for much). Haven't looked for non-scholarly stuff, but I would be surprised if there wasn't plenty of outside-universe coverage. I'll leave that to people who have actually read the books :) -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:04, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per sources found. Note that notability is binary; there is no such thing as in-universe notability, since notability is established through RS'es... which the above editor appears to have done. Jclemens (talk) 22:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Out-of-universe references are a tough bar for any fictional character to cross (see e.g. Ron Weasley, Captain Nemo, Lemuel Gulliver or Crowley (Supernatural)), and I definitely wouldn't want the details in this page to be deleted from Wikipedia entirely or moved to the Artemis Fowl article. I think that's argument enough to keep the page, but definitely the citations found by Elmidae support the notion that people have discussed Fowl as a character separate from his role in the novels. I hope someone more qualified in literary studies can add the citations to the article, but if not, feel free to ping me and I'll give it a shot :). Gaurav (talk) 21:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly the argument about "no out of universe notability" has been shattered. The Characterization section might need a lot of pruning because it seems very fancrufty, but the article seems to pass GNG.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


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