Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arthur Harley


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  03:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Arthur Harley

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He competed as part of a team of 45 British Gymnasts in the 1908 Olympics, with his team coming last, with us knowing little beyond that.

Fails WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:GNG, and violates WP:NOTDATABASE as it is sourced entirely to databases and fails to put data in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. BilledMammal (talk) 01:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 01:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 01:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 01:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * "and violates WP:NOTDATABASE as it is sourced entirely to databases and fails to put data in context with explanations referenced to independent sources" is incorrect. It doesn't violate any of the four points detailed at WP:NOTDATABASE. The article does put into context the subject, and has a reference to an independent source. If nothing can be found on this guy, then redirect to Gymnastics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's team per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:19, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We lack even one source that provides indepth coverage. This suggests that people have not really taken notice on him, and so even a redsirect does not seem justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:ANYBIO per biography here. No WP:BLP concern. WP:NOTDATABASE is not really an argument for deletion here. We may include biographies if we follow the relevant criteria and stand on reliable shoulders. This article does not use just a few facts out of a database but relies on a trusted source. gidonb (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:ANYBIO #3 requires an entry in a country's standard national biographical dictionary. Olympedia is not a country's standard national biographical dictionary, and as they seek to document every Olympian coverage of Olympians within Olympedia is WP:ROUTINE. BilledMammal (talk) 09:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ROUTINE does not apply to people, see here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Only coverage is routine and trivial from Olympedia. Sources may be difficult to locate given the length of time, but nothing suggests this individual member of a fairly large team is notable enough to pass WP:GNG AusLondonder (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm afraid, as I have tried seeing if there is scope for an article here but unfortunately I cannot see it happening. There are some very brief mentions in passing but no evidence he was covered in any depth or had a notable career. I am not averse to a redirect but I am not sure in this instance I see value in it. Bungle (talk • contribs) 09:37, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find anything in terms of coverage, not even when searching UK newspapers on NewspaperArchive. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO and WP:NOLY. LibStar (talk) 23:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


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