Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arthur Wellesley, Earl of Mornington


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The result was redirect to Jemma Kidd. The "keep" arguments are weak: Who's Who, Daily Mail, "there are few".  Sandstein  08:19, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Arthur Wellesley, Earl of Mornington

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Not notable in his own right. He is a courtesy earl but there is no certainty that he will become a Duke and we should cross that bridge when we come to it. For now he doesn't seem notable (other than for who his father is) and I don't believe he passes WP:GNG. Very distantly in line to the British throne, like 485th as of 2011. Uhooep (talk) 11:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Notable as he has an entry in UK Who's Who https://doi.org/10.1093/ww/9780199540884.013.U28126 Piecesofuk (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As mentioned elsewhere having a UK Who's Who entry is not one of WP's notability criteria Uhooep (talk) 08:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Not a valid criterion - David Gerard (talk) 11:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:45, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lot of coverage in the Daily Mail, which admittedly doesn't count for notability itself, but suggests that there may be similar coverage in reliable sources: and ; also  ; also   ; also ; also a Google search through the Daily Telegraph's archives Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:51, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * From the deprecation: "the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability" - you're arguing against your own case here. And being in The Mail does not indicate BLP-quality coverage exists elsewhere David Gerard (talk) 11:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to Jemma Kidd. I can't find much about him outside the Daily Mail. An Elle Decor article even gives first billing to his wife. If and when they make a Duke of Earl Mornington, maybe this could be revisited. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect per - there's little evidence as yet of anything up to scratch to even have a BLP - David Gerard (talk) 11:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep- there are relatively few marquesses (a title he doesn't but could use) in the UK, and this guy will be a duke, which is even less common, and Duke of Wellington is one of the most prestigious titles in the UK. Bearian (talk) 01:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: He's a courtesy earl, it's like a title while waiting to inherit the family title. As mentioned previously, there is no guarantee of ultimately inheriting the family title. Uhooep (talk) 07:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


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