Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artur Samarin


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  08:36, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Artur Samarin

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Otherwise non-notable living person known only for being charged with a crime - see WP:BLPCRIME Pam  D  20:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The story got a fair bit of trivial news coverage because it was whacky and odd, not because there was anything particularly notable about it. - Iago Qnsi (talk) 23:32, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. He fails WP:PERP and is hardly the first to perpetrate this type of deception, as these eight prior examples show. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:08, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep See WP:PERP on notability of criminal acts: "The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role." News coverage has been steady since it was first reported two weeks ago -- new details are being uncovered every day. While it's true that he wasn't the first person to pose as high school student, his story was unusual because his motivation was finding a way to stay in the U.S. Moreover, there is no other article that could incorporate material related to this person. His academic success and relatively high profile within local community add to the uniqueness of the story. The notability of this person is at least as high as that of Treva Throneberry. Convex hull (talk) 20:10, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:PERP. Is the victim of the crime a "renowned national or international figure"? No. Is the crime "considered noteworthy — such that it is a well-documented historic event"? I also believe that the answer is no. This is not a crime that has been the center of significant coverage by national or international news or articles, and doesn't appear to have made a significant impact to national or international culture, history, or society (such as perpetrators like Mark David Chapman, Lee Harvey Oswald, or Bernard Madoff). Hence, I believe that this article fails WP:PERP.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:19, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Redacting vote for now, as more coverage is being added and the story appears to be ongoing.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   07:51, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - Please wait for additional coverage to appear.
 * "Ukrainian Who Posed as Teen in US Faces Sex Assault Charge." Associated Press at The New York Times. February 26, 2016.
 * Chokshi, Niraj. "Impressive teen was actually a 23-year-old impostor who slept with student, police say." Washington Post. February 29, 2016.
 * Scolforio, Mark. "Lawyer of Ukrainian 'Asher Potts' says client wanted 'to take part in the American dream'." Associated Press at The Morning Call. March 4, 2016.
 * Christie, Joel. "Twenty-three-year-old who passed himself off as a high school student was sleeping with a 15-year-old classmate, police say." The Daily Mail. February 26, 2016. Updated February 27, 2016.
 * The coverage appears to be ongoing, and if coverage continues than any characterizations of it being "not significant coverage" are wrong. Also we already have "national or international news or articles" (Washington Post, AP at NYT, UK Daily Mail)
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 20:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Coverage ongoing WhisperToMe (talk) 06:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - substantive, international coverage of this unusual con artist, sex criminal  makes it notable.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - plenty of coverage. good sourcing. WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 10:31, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources found by WhisperToMe. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:20, 17 March 2016 (UTC)


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