Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Así Es (Américo album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Américo. Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Así Es (Américo album)

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Seems Non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 10:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Music. Charsaddian (talk) 10:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Américo: Found no additional coverage. Sources on es:Así es (álbum de Américo) are no good (one's just a discography list and the other's an artist bio with only a passing mention of this album). Note that I don't have access to any Chile/Latin America-specific archives, assuming they exist, so there could be plenty of coverage that just isn't archived where I can see it. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:09, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:29, 31 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Potential keep I am fairly sure this album did receive press coverage to make it worthy enough of an article, but the problem is that these sources are offline and may only be available at Chile's National Library. This album contains probably Americo's most famous song "El embrujo" (the cover of a Peruvian song), and although it was released in 2008, I remember it received some heavy airplay still by 2012. This article on La Tercera only makes a passing mention of "Asi es". "Sus fans suelen seguirlo a todo el país y se saben de memoria su primer disco como solista Américo, Así Es, donde destaca "El Embrujo", su gran éxito" (His fans often track him down all over the country and have memorized his first solo album, Así es, which features his greatest hit "El embrujo"). Another potential source is El Mercurio, but for some time even its search function is behind a paywall I can no longer access it (I used to be a subscriber). This 2016 article also by La Tercera says: "mpartirTras aquel exitoso tándem de discos de Américo, Así es (2008) y A morir (2008), que incluyen los mayores hit del ariqueño -El embrujo, Te vas, o Que levante la mano-, vino el premio mayor: un aplaudido show en Festival de Viña 2010." (After the successful albums of Americo, Así es (2008) and A morir (2008), which include the greatest hits of the Arica man -"El embrujo", "Te vas" or "Que levante la mano"- came his greatest award: a show at Viña del Mar Song Festival 2010). This bio of Americo at Música Popular reads: "En 2007 grabó Así es, donde figuran los singles “El embrujo” (del autor peruano Estanis Mogollón, una de las más escuchadas de ese año) y “Traicionera”, ambos con gran rotación en radios tropicales. [...] Fue en 2008, tras ese éxito reciente de Así es, cuando pasó de ser de una figura a un fenómeno tropical" (In 2007 he recorded Así es, featuring singles "El embrujo" (by Peruvian songwriter Estanis Mogollón, one of the most listened-to songs that year) and "Traicionera", both on heavy rotation at tropical radio stations. [...] It was in 2008, after that recent success of Así es, when [Americo] went from becoming a tropical figure to a phenomenon). --Bedivere (talk) 18:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: 3rd and final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   ArcAngel    (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Américo. I don't necessarily disagree that offline/foreign-language sources may be out there, but even if this album is notable, we have the editorial discretion to cover it "as part of a larger page about a broader topic", as WP:NOPAGE puts it. That's what makes the most sense in this case: we can easily redirect to the singer's article without a substantive loss of information, and the alternative – what NOPAGE describes as "a permanent stub" – isn't desirable for editors or readers. Obviously this calculus would change if someone were actually able to dig up the offline/foreign-language sources discussed above, so if that happens (unlikely but possible), the editor shouldn't hesitate to un-redirect the article and add the additional content. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.