Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/As Friends Rust


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Despite the three relists, no definitive consensus has been reached, with policy arguments being made on both the keep and delete sides. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 13:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

As Friends Rust

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It was prodded by User:Abovethestorm with the following rationale: " Lack of activity to remedy issues regarding lack of citations for eight years raises reasonable doubt as to the notability and necessity for this article.". I agree that The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (music) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:2a02:8070:7ac:5100:6d65:681d:ed77:ebcd, a disruptive deprodding blocked sock. Still, perhaps someone more interested and experienced in punk music may find a source we missed, so let's take this here. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as the best I found were two links at Books but certainly not convincing enough. SwisterTwister   talk  05:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seem significant enough, with quite a few albums released, coverage includes Allmusic bio and review and a few other items in Alt Press, CMJ, etc. Seems likely more print coverage exists. --Michig (talk) 20:12, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:13, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete/Merge as the only results that came up with an internet search resulted in a Japanese tour announcement, articles relating to Damien Moyal's band On Bodies and Moyal's solo project  on Alternative Press. Also, CMJ turned up no results. At the very least, the article should be merged with Damien Moyal, as he seems to be the only "notable" factor in the band, and even that is questionable. Abovethestorm (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 10:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep because of 1, 2. Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you elaborate on how those two pages satisfy NMUSIC? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Piotrus, as I understand it, those both satisfy #1 of NMUSIC; am I wrong? I don't spend too much time on music articles, and so I might be misunderstanding something. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I see. Could be, through I am no expert in this field either. Let's see if others consider those allmusic snippets (they are rather short) sufficient for NM1. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:38, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I personally would throw 1 out the window. It references the bands Culture and Morning Again in an attempt to establish notability by making reference to shared members when the notability of said persons has been called into question time and time again on both biographical pages and the bands themselves. From doing a bit of article-to-article hopping regarding the entire issue that user:HDS' articles seem to be having at the moment, it seems that the popularity and lasting notability of these bands is entirely inward rather than outward. Abovethestorm (talk) 08:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.